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[-] kepix@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

these articles offer ms office alternatives acting like most people write their shopping lists in excel or something. i remember my friend asking for a cheap key for office, and i asked him when was the last time he opened a file in office. after a few seconds of waiting he told me that he opened up an rtf manual for an ancient tomb raider game...told him that almost anything can open an rtf. he lives an officeless life since.

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I'm likely going to because windows update is embarrassingly bad if you have 32gb as your goddamn boot drive.

[-] CommanderShepard@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

OK, really good article and I like Libreoffice (although I prefer Only office) and Linux. I browse on it, game, watch videos, do pretty much everything. I am also a technical person, who can create a VM in 10 mins, add a required boot parameter, etc.

Now. I want to send this article to my colleague/friend who's not technical at all. In the blog post I read

Start by testing Linux and LibreOffice on a second partition of your PC (for individuals)

"Second partition" literally means nothing to most people. I know: just learn, just read. But most people will not bother, or they will simply not understand the tutorials. That's the unfortunate reality.

I think Linux and Libreoffice can become mainstream if a regular Joe/Jane can buy a laptop from Walmart with a distro and office apps pre-installed and use them like Microsoft Office. Before that time all this Linux and FLOSS stuff is limited to technical, or at least curious people willing to put some effort.

P.S. My relatives are on Linux and Onlyoffice, because I installed it for them. And it's so much easier and more rare for me to manage and troubleshoot than Windows. But I cannot see them installing it by themselves.

[-] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 2 points 23 hours ago

Yeah I’ve been considering switching to Linux but I’m not a tech person. I know enough to play some games and install some Minecraft mods and that’s it. Since I was thinking about getting a new lightweight laptop I was gonna get one with Linux instead of windows to give it a try but every time I found one that said Linux I’d look at the specs and it says the operating system is actually windows. I’d be willing to learn how to get Linux myself but I’m worried about ruining my computer because I don’t understand even half of the technical stuff. If anyone has any up to date very beginner friendly guides, I’d appreciate the recommendation

[-] CommanderShepard@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

If you are willing to learn, then you can check Linux laptops from Framework, Tuxedo and Entroware. Linux preinstalled, and hardware is compatible.

[-] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 1 points 22 hours ago

Thanks! I’ll check those out!

[-] SHR@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

Bruh...I'm still running windows 7 in one of my VMs hosted by Debian 😏😏😏

[-] HalifaxJones@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Im seeing these posts twice a day at this point. So someone like myself who is totally ignorant on Linux, I have some questions if anyone can lend advice?

I’ve been on PC windows for over twenty years now. And I use it mostly for video software like davinci resolve. Adobe software workflow. Unreal engine. I use clients harddrives and often times my own for working off of. And often times will send those harddrives to other people and their computers to finish the work. I also occasional play games on steam and Xbox App.

With that said, is it even possible for me to switch over to Linux and keep using all the same software and workflow I have for high end video production workflow?

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

It doesn't have to be one or the other. You can do most of your work in linux and boot windows as a 'secondary' OS for stuff like adobe? I do this, and share NTFS SSDs/hard drives between them.

You are hitting weak points of linux though. I do all media work on linux (a lot through vapoursynth or 'lower level' frameworks than resolve I suppose), but TBH do most of my gaming on Windows, not just for convenience but for performance reasons too.

[-] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
  • Davinci? Yup
  • Adobe? Not even remotely.
  • Unreal....yes? I'm pretty sure th development tools still run on Linux at least.
  • Crossplatform work? As long as it's in the same format from the same application, you should be fine. Just format the drive in something Windows can understand.
  • Steam? Works flawlessly as do most games now. You will need to change one option in settings, because Steam will by default only show games that are verified by valve to work (most games do though). Your biggest hurdle will be the developers that specifically block Linux.
  • Non-Steam games? You'll need to do some work, but you can get them running just as well as steam games
  • Xbox App/Xbox GamePass? Nope.
[-] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 1 points 23 hours ago

While I'm pretty sure you're correct on majority of cases, there's still some stuff, like non-steam games, which just won't work no matter what you do. So, on paper these things work but your mileage may vary.

[-] IEatDaGoat@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Davinci, yes but it can be frustrating to set up.

Unreal, I'm pretty sure yes. I don't see why not. I think it takes effort to setup though.

Adobe, No.

You might unironically want to go for Mac. Either the laptop or desktop XD

[-] HalifaxJones@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Haha ya I assumed those things. I have a Mac that I use as well. But typically prefer a PC when worki by from home :/

I've been a full time dev since 2012 and needed a Mac, I had barely used windows over that time but beforehand ran a PC service business.

Anyway, Ive been using Linux as a daily driver for the past 6 months for reasons.

... The other day I got a new cheap laptop I needed to setup for run a single application.

Holy fuck what a shitshow.

It took me 2 hours just to get to the desktop. Shit didn't work, bullshit login screens, ads everywhere.

It was a massive pile of dog shit.

After battling to get the system setup for the rest of the day I gave up, chucked Fedora Kinoite On it... Took 30 minutes from creating boot media to getting a desktop going, chucked the app I needed to run in a Flatpack, chucked it on a USB, and it was up and running.

No bullshit.

Just works.

Truly the year of the Linux desktop.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

I'm guessing the cheap laptop was running Windows? You didn't mention, it sounds at first like you're saying you were using Linux on it.

What ads were everywhere? Why did it "take 2 hours to get to the desktop" - you mean, that's how long it took to install or something?

[-] StonerCowboy@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

People here so full of shit. I just reimaged my lenovo t570 with windows 11 took less then 10mins to install. Another 5 to remove all the bs built in software like solitaire Cortana etc and then another 10-15 to apply all windows updates. Bam done.

Yeah, sure. But I don't run a shop anymore and just picked up an off the shelf machine from a retailer.

Turned it on, connected it to wifi, then it took forever to try and update itself, which failed, required another reboot, then made me sign in, which also failed, needed a reboot

I dont want a fucking ms account, I don't want to wait for every update, just ask my name and take me to the desktop

[-] StonerCowboy@lemm.ee 1 points 23 hours ago

Sounds like a personal skill issue. Especially if you bought some crappy off the shelf laptop.

Also you dont need any of that to use windows so again pushing false narrative since you can use windows with an offline account perfectly fine. Since I use mine for school and dont sign into Microsoft.

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago

Takes a lot more to fully deshittify it, though. I've been down that road. So much registry diving, so many third party apps, strongarming uninstallations of bloatware through brute force, and just all around weeks of work.

When the screenshot shit was announced the first time, I just got tired of looking for workarounds to disable or remove Microsoft's active attempts of policing, spying, and triple-dip profiting off it's paying customers.

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Sorry answered it elsewhere, yep windows 11.

The forced update took forever and failed and then it also fucked out with the Microsoft account. It was legit 2 hours from boot to seeing a desktop. I wanted to skip the updates and the Microsoft account.

The start menu is full of ads for software I don't want. If I buy software off you, stop trying to upsell me.

[-] LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 87 points 2 days ago

I really need to stop putting it off and install Linux on my PC and laptops

[-] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Linux Mint would like a word. Best choice tech wise I ever made. Shit just works and it's dead simple, polished, easy to learn and read programs. Fuck Windows. I will never go back. Make the jump!

[-] LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That's good to know. Mint was going to be my distro of choice

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[-] julysfire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Don't and done. No problems, highly recommend it

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

What?! I'm still working on my spreadsheet comparing 7 and 8!

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[-] StonerCowboy@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

No, no its not. I get it lemmy has a hard on for Linux and libreoffice. But unfortunately its just not gonna happen windows is king. If you like or not its the main dog on the market and enterprises are not going to switch.

[-] Bunbury@feddit.nl 16 points 2 days ago

With a couple of governments making the switch I honestly think that things are changing to some degree. Will windows die and be forgotten by everyone overnight? Of course not. But I think there’s a real chance their piece of the pie will start to shrink noticeably. Chrome OS is dominating in schools for a few years now and Microsoft is seemingly trying hard to alienate the current windows users.

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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

OnlyOffice is way better than LibreOffice.

[-] the_q@lemmy.zip 50 points 2 days ago

I always find it odd that posts like this get any downvotes at all. Like, are people really that in love with Windows and or Microsoft?

It's because we've seen this post 1000 times

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[-] kittenzrulz123 22 points 2 days ago

Because mass recommending Linux to people with absolutely no nuance whatsoever is exactly why Linux users are seen as obnoxious and annoying. Not only does the website make no attempt to properly explain Linux it doesn't clearly outline its usecase. Its the very definition of the Linux user stereotype, blasted right in front of your face, reposted everywhere, and with a simple INSTALL LINUX and EVEYONE CAN INSTALL LINUX.

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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago

The end of windows 10 support is approaching. Windows 10 will go on for a while yet.

[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah but my W10 shoved a giant full screen ad telling me to get rid of my PC and get a new one with W11 twice. Support might be ending but if it constantly nags you to upgrade, that's just BS.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

It's not all quite as rosy.

Yes, Linux is much more capable now than it was 10 years ago and it's much more capable of being used as a main system. I myself have been using Linux as my main system for a few years now.

But it's also a fact that a lot of stuff might not work (even if it works for someone else) and that some things are still more difficult than they should be.

For example, on my laptop cannot wake from sleep since kernel 6.11. I have manually sourced a 6.10 from an older version of my distro and keep holding it back, so that I can use my laptop as a laptop. For someone without technical skill, this would mean that their laptop just can't sleep any more. Hibernate also doesn't work.

Another example is that LibreOffice still makes a lot of formatting mistakes when it has to open word documents. And sure, everyone could just switch to odf, but it's not quite as easy to make everyone else switch to odf. It makes it really hard to use LibreOffice in any kind of professional environment. Wouldn't want to make a powerpoint presentation that then looks like shit when it's played on a different PC.

Lastly, Nvidia sucks, but it's also close to the only option for laptops with dGPUs. When I look for laptops with dGPUs available in my area on a price comparison platform, I find 760 laptops with Nvidia GPUs and only 3 with AMD, all of which are priced at least €500 more than comparable Nvidia devices. So if you want to go for a gaming laptop, Nvidia is pretty much the only option, and under Linux it really sucks. Steam games generally work ok for me, but trying to use Heroic Launcher to play anything from my gigantic library of free Epic/Amazon/GoG games, about 10% of the games I tried actually work. And even with those that work, my laptop sometimes just decides that a slide show with 3 FPS is good enough. That stays even after reboots and resets, and after a few days it returns to normal. Only to go back to slideshow mode a few days later.

If you just use your laptop to run a browser, I can recommend Linux 100%.

If you want to do anything else and don't have any technical skills and/or don't want to spend hours fixing things that should just work, I can't fully recommend it.

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[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 days ago

I've had windows update disabled for years so the fact that it's "end of life" don't mean shit to me. It'll keep chugging along for years more.

That said, I installed Mint a week ago and love it!

[-] prof@infosec.pub 25 points 2 days ago

EOL means no more security updates, which means attack vectors don't get patched.

If you keep using a Windows installation (or any OS for that matter) that isn't patched regularly you are very likely to be victim to some malicious actor eventually. It's not manual hacking anymore, it's bots scraping the whole internet exploiting known vulnerabilities completely automated.

The risk is much lower if you're in a home network with NAT, where your PCs IP is not publicly reachable, but if you communicate with any webservices you're still vulnerable.

As example. If you nowadays put a Windows XP machine live on the internet with a public IP, it will be compromised within minutes.

So yeah. Good call switching to Mint, but please don't use unpatched Windows.

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[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago

Can't wait for the "The end of Windows 11 is approaching..." article in a few years. Keep me posted.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Windows 12, with AI even moreso integrated.

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[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

Installed Linux Mint a few months ago and have been dual booting. Hardly use Windows at all now.

Linux is exactly what an OS should be.

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