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[-] hexagon@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago

Didn't North Korean military slap US military with their dick on their faces for years? Isn't that the reason a North Korea exists at all?

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

if by "defend our nation" he means "destabilizing foreign nations" then yeah, he is correct.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 4 points 22 hours ago

There is an argument to be made that they are defending American hegemony though Trump is fast eroding that in favor of the Chinese.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 hours ago

inshallah 🙏

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

No one will ever match North Korea's marching game.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago

I personally enjoy their "Jumbotron" where everyone holds a pixel and they change in unison.

[-] Cattail@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Lol they're pro military just to make Trump's joint celebration with the military look bad

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Eeehh, so yes, after basic i did not march anywhere really. And you do need to brush up on it to keep in the swing of things…. But honestly, you know your unit is going to march in a parade months in advance, and for better or worse are going to represent the armed forces, you schedule mandatory training time.

Is it wasteful? Arguably under normal circumstances, definitely under this circumstance.

So i can only conclude that either they did not care, or do care a lot, or someone who was supposed to plan this fucked up and they just grabbed people.

[-] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

If I was the commanding officer for this absolute sham, I'd teach them to match the goose step to make a point.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I despised drill and ceremony. Standing in the heat and humidity, waiting to move and watching soldiers drop because of heat stroke. Never lock your damn knees.

[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Made more sense back in the day when you didnt have TV or anything to do for most of every day.

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 day ago

"Defend our nation" by starting wars to keep rich people rich?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 days ago

It's very important for soldiers to focus on doing "important work to defend our nation" (murdering brown kids) and that they're "productive at their jobs" (bombing hospitals)

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[-] buttnugget@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I’ve been trying to explain to people for many years that China’s military is mostly just for show, but it isn’t the US if we’re not demonizing China for no reason.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

to defend the interests of our nations elites.

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is just not accurate.

Here's an example proving it incorrect:

https://youtu.be/aeFltEjzR2Y?t=1212

That's just a unit. Not a ceremonial one.

[-] RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

I mean the honest truth is the military hates Trump just like the rest of us

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

It is genuinely, such a hilariously piss-poor excuse.

My wife is in the Canadian Forces. She is ridiculously good at her job, and everyone in the CAF is trained to a ridiculously high standard. By the time she exited occupational training she was already qualified on more weapon systems than most US soldiers ever touch in their entire careers. Her unit shoots sub-MOA groupings for fun. They meet and often exceed the physical standards for Ranger school. And this is just reg-force infantry.

And despite all that, she is also so completely capable of keeping a tight march that she actually has to stop herself from automatically falling in perfect step next to me when we're walking down the street. And no, the excuse of "Oh, you can't march to Fortunate Son" doesn't count for shit. My wife can mark perfect time with no music at all. Christ, one time in training her MCpl made her unit all put on their gas masks and mark time while singing Oh Canada, and they didn't get to stop until it was perfect. And no, they did not have a fucking drum or backing music. She's not on a drill team; Canada doesn't have drill teams. This is just something they do because it's part of the basic standard of being a soldier.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The key difference is you can actually march to that music. Fortunate son is slightly too fast for a proper pace which is why the front of the one group was wavy and people were out of step. Also if anyone was actually calling cadence, the people on the left side probably wouldn't have been able to hear it over the music.

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

Marching can be done to no music.

Side ranks keep sideeye on the element leader to the side, everyone else keeps side eye to the person on their right.

There are also the marshall with the whips. If all else fails, you keep cadence to that.

In a silent march, you keep in step with the "Clomp clomp clomp", which also, is quite easy to do, and is done often.

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[-] wpb@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When has the US military defended the nation? I got the impression that they're mostly used for invading foreign countries for financial gain, cf Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Yugoslavia, Sudan, Panama, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Cuba, Guatemala, Korea.

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[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 days ago

This is a false dichotomy, as though you can either be productive or learn to march. Obviously you could do both.

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[-] zieg989@awful.systems 249 points 2 days ago

I am surprised at how many people do not get it. In military you cannot not comply with the orders, especially whan there is clearly nothing criminal with it. The guys doing sloppy marching is pretty much the only agency they have and the only way to protest and boycot that ridiculous parade.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 61 points 2 days ago

Malicious compliance

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[-] xiii@lemmy.world 134 points 2 days ago
[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 63 points 2 days ago

Given that Fortunate Son was playing as one of the songs...

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[-] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 89 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

From what I'm hearing from coordinators and people inside its not that they can't march. It's that nobody wanted to. They had to be there. So they phoned it in. Malicious compliance.

Like the squeaky tanks. That was a choice made in the motor pool. They could have greased them up and tested to make sure they were smooth. But they made a different call.

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[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 176 points 2 days ago

I think the way they marched says more about trump than it does their ability to march. I very much doubt they forgot how to do it.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 95 points 2 days ago

Like riding a bike. Those soldiers were doing their best to sham in plain sight and right in front of that bloated tangerine, I’ve never been so proud of the E-4 mafia in my life.

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[-] asg101 40 points 2 days ago

These soldiers spend their days doing important work to defend our nation.

The U.S. military has done nothing to defend their "nation" for over 100 years. They ONLY defend the corporate oligarchs' ability to steal resources and use slave labor in third world countries.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Lmao yet Ukraine still stands thanks to American intelligence and military apparatus.

I'm not even an American but this kindergarten sentiment on Lemmy is so exhausting.

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[-] loaf@sh.itjust.works 147 points 2 days ago

The way the marines, in particular, marched… no. That was sloppy and looked intentional.

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago

They deliberately half-assed the parade because they don't like the way Trump treats them. Trump calls them "suckers and losers." He cuts their benefits Why would you show any loyalty (or enthusiasm) to someone who treats you like that?

More Trump quotes: "You fucking generals. Why can't you be more like Hitler's generals?" 2017

On the burial of US Army private Vanessa Guillén: "It doesn't cost 60,000 bucks to bury a fucking Mexican!" December 4, 2020. Trump has denied having made the remark.

"We're not going to support that loser's funeral." August, 2018. Trump has denied having made this remark.

re: John McCain, who was captured and tortured for five years: "He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured, okay? I hate to tell you." July 18, 2015.

"But, you know, during the Vietnam War, I got very lucky. I had a very high lottery number." November 9, 1995.

On the 1,800 US Marines who died at Belleau Wood in France during World War I "Suckers." November 11, 2018. Trump denies having made this remark.

On US soldiers in World War I "Who were the good guys in this war?" November 11, 2018. Trump denies having asked this question.

"I don't get it. What was in it for them?" November 11, 2018. Trump denies having made this remark.

On disabled veterans "Why do you bring people like that here? No one wants to see that, the wounded." September 30, 2019.

"Look, I don't want any wounded guys in the parade. This doesn't look good for me." Summer 2017.

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[-] troglodytis@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago

The band played "Fortunate Son". They all knew exactly what they were doing.

If shit ever does hit the fan full send (I very much doubt it) he doesn't have the army.

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[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 70 points 2 days ago

I was only in marching band. 25 years later, I promise I could still do it with zero practice. This was on purpose.

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[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago

They didn't want to attract the worm.

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