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[-] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This post tickles a fond memory of mine. I was talking to a right-wing libertarian, and he said there should be no research done ever if it couldn't prove beforehand its practical applications. I laughed out loud because I knew how ignorant and ridiculous that statement was. He clearly had never picked up a book on the history of science, on the history of these things:

  • quantum mechanics. It would be a shame if the poor libertarian didn't have semiconductors in his phone, or if he didn't have access to lasers for his LASIK surgery (which he actually did have), both of which are technologies built by basic research that didn't have practical applications in mind.
  • electromagnetism. It would be a shame if the poor libertarian was having his LASIK surgery and the power went out without there being a generator, a technology built by basic research that didn't have practical applications in mind.
  • X-rays. It would be a shame if the poor libertarian didn't have x-rays to check the inside of his body in case something went wrong, a technology built by basic research that didn't have practical applications in mind.
  • superconductivity. It would be a shame if the poor libertarian didn't have superconductors for an MRI to check the inside of his body in case something went wrong, a technology built by basic research that didn't have practical applications in mind.
  • radio waves. It would be a shame if the poor libertarian didn't have radio waves for his phone and computer's wifi and bluetooth to run his digital business, technologies built by basic research that didn't have practical applications in mind.
[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 week ago

When talking with libertarians you should keep in mind they have completely different axiomatic values. It is often the case that they understand a certain policy would be on net bad for everyone, they simply don't care. They are rarely utilitarian about those issues.

I get along much better with libertarians who justify libertarianism with values extrinsic to just "muh freedom" -- they are usually much more willing to yield ground in places where I can convince them that a libertarian policy would be net negative, and they have also moved me to be more open minded about some things I thought I would never agree with.

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[-] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Bullshit. Lasers have been intended to gain interplanetary superiority since the dawn of time. We just didnt know how to make them or that they could also be used to read music from a circle

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

Was he the guy that started that rental car company?

/s

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

His customers lamented that driving was so boring and they wished there was some magical way for the cars to play music.

Oh well. Nothing to be done there.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Just straight lazy... Shame.

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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

This may be an even better example than the positron. Originally a theoretical antimatter form of the common electron, with no practical application.

Turned out to be a vital tool for medical imaging. If you or someone you know has ever had a PET scan, now you know what the P stands for.

[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

I feel like this is a very "scientisty" thing - the theoretical aspect is so fascinating and being able to fit all the pieces into a model that is mathematically accurate is the reward.

Considering the practical application of the model and how it can benefit society (or in other words, be marketed for profit) takes a different set of skills.

[-] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

We stand on the shoulders of giants etc etc. But it seems odd to me that they wouldn't think about using this for communication at least.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 17 points 1 week ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_radio

By August 1895, Marconi was field testing his system but even with improvements he was only able to transmit signals up to one-half mile, a distance Oliver Lodge had predicted in 1894 as the maximum transmission distance for radio waves.

I suppose beyond the engineering know how required they were looking at possible transmission ranges and thinking it simply wasn't practical, square law and all that.

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[-] manxu@piefed.social 28 points 1 week ago

I mean, why would a guy that started a car rental company know anything about radio waves?

Gotcha!

Because of car radio? Vertical integration, you know.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I thought he was a baker. When I was a kid people would always be talking about "Hertz donuts". Then they'd punch me. I never knew why.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 28 points 1 week ago
[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago

Half of the field is viable thanks to a single algorithm: FFT

[-] Hugin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

FFT was a DARPA project. It alone probably makes all their funding worth it.

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[-] pastel_de_airfryer@lemmy.eco.br 25 points 1 week ago

And this is why science shouldn't be beheld to the whims of politicians and capitalists

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago

~~Aperture~~ Science! We do what we must because we can!

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