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Many of these people in US concentration camps are catholic. The thing that's crazy is how many insane catholics like JD Vance are cheering this on.
There are a lot of people who wear the label catholic because they always have, not because they identify with other catholics or believe that the pope is the earthly voice of god.
JD Vance is a fascist white supremacist who happens to be catholic. The fascism and white supremacy being more important to him than the catholicism...
Vance is part of a specific far right hyperpolitical faction of Catholics that he adopted via his patron Thiel.
He's as Catholic as Trump is born-again evangelical. They are just pandering
Yeah and if prayer worked we wouldn't need hospitals.
Many hospitals are also run by the church. Catholics believe in science - all recent popes say evolution is fact.
Catholics believe in some science. Their stances on abortion for instance are extremely barbaric.
None of those are prayer, they are materialistic! See, god is a redundant hypothesis.
No, catholics (generally) believe that worldly goals are accomplished by worldly methods. Worshipping god isn't intended to accomplish anything in this life: it's intended to secure a place in heaven.
Mind you, I'm atheist; I'm not saying it actually DOES secure a place in heaven. I'm just pointing out that for genuine believers, prayer is not intended, primarily, to accomplish worldly ends. It sometimes INCLUDES requests for personal worldly aid, but a priest would scold you if he knew that's ALL you prayed for. You're supposed to thank god for giving you existence, ask for the strength to live more virtuously, ask for leniency on your imperfections, etc.
What exactly is your take here lmao. The headline says nothing about prayer. It calls for actual physical action that is likely to positively impact outcomes for at least some immigrants. I personally consider this to be a huge net good, as it speaks respect and love for immigrants with a voice that a not-insignificant number of conservatives are willing to hear from. Did you just see the word "catholic" and wanna dunk on Christians?
That's the point. We're doing the heavy lifting, why do we need an invisible sky Santa? And why now? Kinda sucks if you were born 200 years ago, no? Was I supposed to pray for leeches back then? There is no god.
Time to put the security blanket away.
I honestly can't see the point you're trying to make.
It's not 2014 anymore
Religious people are not mentally well.
They believe if they whisper hard enough that magic will fix their problems.
They believe if they follow some thousand year old undiagnosed obsessive compulsive disorder sufferers compulsions that magic will fix their problems.
They literally believe in magic.
They are all wackos.
Every single one.
There are no good religions.
ICE won't care. They'll be fine with arresting and abusing priests, as well.
You ever notice how ICE is always turning up these "dangerous criminals and lazy bums" at Immigration hearings and job sites?
It's literally in their Bible... This should just be standard. Not special.
Bible is like the Constitution. Some people don't read it.
Bible is like the Constitution. Some people don’t read it.
People only read what they want to take out of anything. Scientific reports, government policies, laws, philosophical essays, books, etc.
Saw it happen all the time. I use to work at the court house that was open to serve the public. We had at least 2 different signs that said "We are not City Hall. We do not do driver's license, birth certificates, passports, etc.." Without fail, people would walk in and still ask about City Hall Services. People looked at the sign and saw Driver's License, assumed that's what we did.
Because they'd be atheists if they actually did. The ones who read it and stay Christians are just sociopaths.
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This is where we find out which faith is stronger, organized religion or the MAGA cult.
The MAGA nuts are Christian nationalist protestants. They think the Pope is the antichrist (literally many of them do).
The irony being that Trump fits the description of the of anti-Christ eerily well
Mormons too, they’ve been screeching about Armageddon and the antichrist since we elected that black fellow
Which is complete bullshit, a long standing tenant of the Mormon faith was to “follow the laws of the land” but once we started actually making some social progress they started forgetting that more and more and more.
The whispered part of that is that members should run for office; that way they have the power to make laws conform to their ideology. I was surprised by the number of Mormons in Congress. They’re pretty over-represented for the population they represent.
People treat Mitt Romney like he's not in an insane cult. Don't get me wrong, he's better than most of that lot, but not by a lot.
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Yet many Catholics voted in line with the MAGA nuts, purely on abortion. The American Catholic Church has turned abortion into its defining political litmus test. Hopefully this new Pope can convince American bishops that there are other issues worth their attention.
Besides, the folks who run the US right now always need an enemy. Once they run through the immigrants, and LGBT people, who's next? It's entirely possible these christofascists start ostracizing Catholics. They never liked them anyway, they just liked their votes, and they probably think they won't need votes anymore to keep in power.
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None of them have faith, religion has been used to prior up racist, sexist ideas for over a century in the US. They left faith long ago, it's just a tool for their hate.
Western Christians haven't cared about their religion for at least a century, probably more. Bets on MAGA.
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yeah, right. not like the pope knows anything about religion. /s
Jesus’ family were supposedly immigrants and asylum seekers. Priests should step up. So should real christians.
Another argument for renaming the "No True Scotsman" fallacy to "No True Christian" to make it more self-explanatory.
I know that the name of the fallacy comes from an example, but I don't think I've ever heard a scotsman invoke "No True Scotsman". I've heard countless Americans invoke it though, and one side does it far more than the other.
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