Edit: of course this is satire. The power of the reading comprehension devil grows stronger every day 😢
Satire and on point.
Walking is alien to the vast majority of suburbanites and rural people. Walking ~6 miles round trip is a little over 2 hours at a modest pace.
Where are the bike lanes? Is this 1950?
Too many people dont recognize satire.
Considering reality do you blame them? This is hardly satire, just sarcastic pointing out (US) reality.
Yea. The Onion has been out-satired by reality lately, I'll give you that.
Why don't the just build a new liquor store in the middle of the new houses? That solves it all
Not a strong example of walkable communities, it's quite pathetic in fact. Is this satire?
“Walkable” to a gas station is a strong indication of satire.
More walkable than some places. At least there is a side walk.
Sidewalks and 15-25mph speed limits go a long way. Would be nice if there was little community stores for staples embedded in the neighborhood, but that's a foreign concept in American suburbs
hi European here!
what the fuck?
i'm here complaining how it's hard to walk to a big shopping mall or an ikea and you're out there without even a small grocery store around most corners? how do you lot do that? i'd seriously just starve to death if i couldn't get up, walk for 5min, and buy food for a whole meal (or a frozen pizza)
We drive
Everywhere
In a way that can't really be described to Europeans. If you live in a suburban area, people think you're weird if you do anything other than use your car to get anywhere for any reason. Almost everywhere in the US is designed around the idea that you have a car and you use it every day.
This is about my city:
And it's absolutely true. Our buses are mostly useful for driving to a Park & Ride/Transit Center and then to work and back. That's about it.
Oh yeah I can confirk Columbus is a fucking nightmare for bus transit. Its kinda bikable in some parts, and by that I mean possibly safer than Kyiv. But I'll say this about it, its definitely better than a lot of other places in America. I will never understand its resistance to light rail.
There are parts of America that are reasonable. Cities like New York, D.C., and Seattle have people who can afford a car choosing not to own one. But then you've got places like Houston and most small cities where even Columbus looks walkable.
As an American I need you to understand that what you're saying sounds like a deep parody here. We have some major cities that are comfortable to live in without a car, but they're few and far between.
To us a grocery store is a place you go to rather than swing by real quick. Its changing in some cities, and I've even lived in a suburb with walkable groceries, but its really not the norm.
This does exist in major US cities, especially the older (by US standards) ones. I'm in San Francisco, in a "good" neighborhood, and restaurants, groceries, bars, and multiple forms of public transit are all a short walk away. This is very different in car centric suburbs/cities though.
The contrast between eg Manhattan and Los Angeles is wild. First time in LA I went out walking, looking for a restaurant. The footpath vanished and suddenly I was on the edge of what seemed like a freeway. Relatives in Santa Monica were horrified to learn that I had taken a bus from my hotel downtown to visit them (it was perfectly fine).
I live in the EU but used to live in the US. In a nice part, too!
I lived like 400m from a small store. Never drove once. Insanely dangerous to walk on such a busy road with no sidewalks, no crossings, etc.
I walk a ton and bike ~80-100km/week now and don't think twice about it.
Every community is walkable if you walk enough.
Sidewalks would be neat though.
No kidding. I was on a bike ride yesterday through some areas where entire subdivisions, in fairly medium/high class neighbourhoods, had no sidewalks. Retired folks were taking their nightly stroll on the side of the road. I guess kids don't get to play outside there, either.
When I was a kid, we played in the street. I remember one time it was 3rd and short. We had a play that was maybe 20 yards from the endzone. Play started, I got passed the ball, I dodged 3 kids, got passed them, and I was CLEARLY going to get to the endzone. But then the ref (one of the kids parents) yelled "CAR!"
And yes, a car WAS coming, very slowly, from way down the street. We could have easily finished the play, but CAR was yelled, which means all play stops. The ongoing play is ruled dead, and we re-do the play from whatever conditions we started the play on. In this case 3rd and short.
What would have been a touchdown, was ruled dead because some granny was driving 5mph from like 400 yards down the street. WE ALL KNEW IT WAS A TOUCHDOWN PLAY!!! I MADE AN AMAZING RUN!!!
But, those were the rules to keep the kids safe as we played in the street. Yes, I AM 41 years old, and still mad at some boomer from when I was like 7 years old. THAT PLAY WAS ALL MINE!!!!
Anyways, we eventually scored, like 5 plays later, but still. I had my amazing run taken away.
So back to your comment, yes, kids used to play in the street all the time. Not sure if they do now. Probably too distracted on their cell phones and tablets.
You know I was watching an MLB game the other week, and I saw the camera cut to one of the Astros outfielders, just standing in the outfield between plays, on his cell phone? THE ASTROS!!! I don't have proof, but I BET YOU they were cheating. Seriously! Who pulls out an iPhone during a baseball game and checks their emails?? I thought it was flat out illegal. If it's not, it SHOULD BE!!!
Yes, I got sidetracked here. So what? I'm making conversation about THOSE CHEATING ASTROS!!! The 2017 World Series will always be vacant in my mind. Every player, coach, owner, hot dog vendor, everybody! They should all have been lifetime banned from baseball! But here we are. Eight years later. Many of them still involved with the game. Still celebrating the 2017 World Series as if they deserved it. That should have been retroactively stripped from them.
Ah yes, they can walk to (checks notes) a gas station. Makes sense.
I believe he might be doing a comedy
To be fair, it has my next pack of smokes, beef jerky and beers, not just gas.
I used to live in an apartment complex right next to a circle k. I did 60% of my spending there and it was great.
This has clearly got to be satire, but the issue with "walkable communities" is the zoning. You need commerce close to those houses - a coffee shop, a bakery, small supermarket, dry cleaner, small doctor's office, a couple of restaurants, etc.
Not a huge strip of stores, just a few every other block.
Ditch the school buses, and instead create actual bus routes that the kids, but also everyone else, can hop on and off to get around.
100% satire or comedy. 3.7 miles is not "walkable". That's 7.4 miles round trip. 2-3 hours of walking.
When I played The Sims 2, the first thing I'd do is create a small public lot where everyone could get all their needs met and buy food and a cell phone (since starting characters didn't have one). There were some oddities, since Sims get dirty quickly, I'd replace sinks with showers, and would make sure coffee was available everywhere.
Eventually, sims could walk from their home, rather than investing in a garage and a car or taking a cab.
"Why does everyone want to live in pre-existing postwar suburbs? what is the magical x factor that makes people want them?? "
I think it is a few things and mostly centered on raising a family. I also think its lame but these are the reasons as I see them.
They tend to have good schools
They have front/back yards for children to play
The buildings are physically separated so the chance you hear your neighbors is low
The neighborhoods are much more quite
The neighborhoods have low crime
....
Did i really need to add an /s? I thought the quotation marks were a clear enough indicator.
People want older suburbs because they're planned to be walkable
Asking a very regular question, getting an answer, and then being sassy and saying "that was sarcasm"
Lol, your head just disappeared up your own ass.
You know you can just say "i misread that comment". You're allowed to do that.
You don't have to abuse people. That's a choice you made
Yeah, their response was unnecessarily caustic. Your reply was reasonable and I understood the intention of the original comment from the quotation marks.
Modern house features
America is such a living hell that like I don't even want to participate in a revolution. It's just going to be a libturd or right-wing-hog revolution anyways. I really think a lot of my social ills, anxiety and depression just comes from the world I live in. I truly believe I am a product of my environment. I would leave the United States in a heartbeat with just the clothes on my back. The only time I've ever been happy is when I was able to commute on my bicycle. Ever since COVID, people have been driving like fucking jackasses. And now I live in an area that I can't ride my bike no more. I have never been so depressed in my whole fucking miserable life. Like a scientist, I want to see if it's me or my environment. I think America causes physical and mental illness. I sometimes think if it were up to me and I wasn't allowed to leave the United States, but I could die in a nuclear explosion and just completely wipe off USA from the face of the earth. I say to myself, I would push that fucking button for future generations, for the world. The world is capitalistic and the Yankee has a lot of leverage, a lot of places in Europe start adopting the Yankee way. It terrifies me, knowing that American culture like the disease that it is Spreads like a plus-filled rash. I am very unhappy. These feelings compile over time. And you're in such agony. You try to figure out why. And then eventually it clicks. America is a piece of shit.
You can move out of America, try. I’m an American living abroad for decades now, and left with nearly zero cash and made a great life abroad.
Plot twist though, everywhere still has problems, just different ones, and the US’ bullcrap affects everyone everywhere including you no matter where you are. (Have why I still care and pay attention to it).
On the subject of this post, I live in a super walkable city, Shanghai, and do everything by bike (amazing, world class bike lanes), walking, subway, taxi, bus etc. and don’t have or need a car, it’s awesome.
Sidewalks check! ✅
don't take them for granted in the States
Only a couple of hours to get a snack! You'll burn off the calories as you get home!
Ok. I live in a car centric city but never have lived where I couldn't walk to a corner store. Even out in the suburbs when I was a kid, we could walk to the store, the library too.
Not to say there aren't house farms in the exurbs, ringed by impossibly wide and fast roads. But it's not so prevalent that you can't avoid it.
I agree on zoning - there's an empty lot a couple houses down, and another on the river, wouldn't it be nice if I could build a pub so people didn't drive to the bar? But truly, there are 3 gas stations/corner stores within a mile of our house, 4 barbershops, restaurants, 2 laundromats, a tattoo shop, a pharmacy, all without crossing any road with more than 2 lanes and 25mph speed limit. We just got a taqueria too, it's so good! I just want a neighborhood bar because I hate hate driving somewhere for a drink!
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