I'll believe they actually optimized their PC port when their PC ports start showing some signs of effort at being actual PC ports
No FOV slider after FO76 had one is, to me, a great sign of how little Bethesda actually cares about the platform that keeps them popular (thanks to mods)
They don't want to put the work in for the biggest benefit of PC gaming.
I don't think any PC should be able to run a game well at max settings on release. Leave room for it to still look good five years from now.
And have the bare bones setting be able to work on shitty systems that do need upgraded.
Bethesda just wants to make games that run on a very small slice of PCs, and who can blame them when they can't even release a stable game on a single console? They're just not good at
I don’t think any PC should be able to run a game well at max settings on release. Leave room for it to still look good five years from now.
This is the mentality they want you to have. And it's a shit one. PCs should be able to run any game well when it comes out.
at max settings
Waaaaay too many people want that endorphin hit from setting everything to ultra.
Even if Medium looked exactly the same.
If you’ve got a 5 year old pc, sorry you shouldn’t expect to play on max, let alone anything over medium.
People need to temper their expectations about what a PC can actually do over time.
We are talking modern hardware, nobody is expecting a 5 year old PC to be running maxed out games anywhere near as well as the latest hardware should be. People are just more and more willing to bend over and accept shit given to them, there's no reason Starfield couldn't be running better, they certainly had the capabilities at Bethesda to make it so.
Yeah. But at least you can use console command ( ~ tilde as usual ) to change fov Default values are first person 85 and third person 70 Range is 70-120
SetINISetting "fFPWorldFOV:Camera" "85"
SetINISetting "fTPWorldFOV:Camera" "70"
When you're happy with what you got, issue
SaveIniFiles
Or you can just edit
I'm glad everyone is beta testing this game for me.
I'll wait until it's $20 on steam with all DLC for spaceship horse armor.
I guess Steve from gamer nexus should upgrade his computer when doing test runs? This guy I swear.
Just get a 4090ti to play the game that looks like it's made in 2011. What's the hold up?
Already preordered a 7900XTXTX ready to run Starfield at 720p 144fps in 3 years.
such a todd move, always with a shit eating grin. "Oh you can't run our game? jeez, have you tried not being poor?"
Thing is, I did upgrade my PC. Starfield runs acceptably, but not to the level it should given my hardware.
I'd much rather hear that they're working on it in a patch rather than be gaslit into thinking it already runs well.
I would agree. They should acknowlege its not well optimized and are working on fixing it, especially with Nvidia cards. It rubs me wrong that they are in denial here, especially given their rocky release history.
Heck that think that 50% of the reason they didnt want even co-op or any netcode. FO76 was a nightmare on relase largely because of that.
While I'm probably in a small demographic here, I'm sitting with a perfectly capable PC, not a gaming supercomputer or anything but a healthy upgrade from standard, and when I started hearing about Starfield I got really excited.
...then I saw all this stuff about compatibility and performance, and when I tried to see where my equipment stood, I was left with the impression that if I wasn't a PC building enthusiast, it was going to be hard to figure it out, and if my computer wasn't pretty high end and new, it was probably going to struggle.
And now hearing more about the performance issues, I've basically given up even considering the game based on possible performance and compatibility issues.
They didn't optimize it for consoles either. Series X has equivalent of 3060 RTX graphical grunt, yet it's capped to 30fps and looks worse than most other AAA games that have variable framerates up to 120fps. Todd says they went for fidelity. Has he played any recent titles? The game looks like crap compared to many games from past few years, and requires more power.
The real reason behind everything is the shit they call Creation Engine. An outdated hot mess of an engine that's technically behind pretty much everything the competition is using. It's beyond me why they've not scrapped it - it should have been done after FO4 already.
Weird how everyone jokes how shitty Bethesda developers are but everyone's surprised how bad Starfield runs.
And don't forget the constant loading screens. A game that has so many of them shouldn't look this bad and run this poorly.
I installed an optimized textures mod and instantly improved my performance by like... 20 frames, maybe more.
I have an RX 6600 XT that can run Cyberpunk on high no problem. C'mon Bethesda, the game is really fun, but this is embarrassingly bad optimization.
This game is not pretty enough to push my 3080 ti as hard as it does. I get around 40fps at max settings.
They did lol, and that's a really dumb question by a tech illiterate. Optimization isn't a boolean state, it's a constant ongoing process that still needs more work.
Always irks me when gamers talk about optimization like it was a specific process or just changing a setting
So what's this about modders immediately being able to improve performance with mods within a week after release?
When there are benchmarks showing 0.1% lows at <40fps at 1080p on a goddamn 4090, no, Todd, the problem is your engine.
Kiss my ass Todd, my 6700xt and Ryzen 5 5600x shouldn't have to run your game at 1440p native with low settings to get 60fps
While the frame rate I've been getting is not at all consistent, I do get 45-90 fps, which is quite playable with Freesync. Running 3840x1600 w/5800X3D and 6700XT. Not too crazy of a system. From my understanding, it's the 2000 and 3000 series Nvidia cards mainly having issues.
3060ti here with zero issues.
It’s Bethesda. The bugs also depend on the moon phase, the average length of your pubes and the number of coins in your wallet.
Idk what you guys are talking about lol. Runs perfectly with my 4090 13900k 32Go ddr5
Who's your liquid nitrogen supplier?
Ran horribly until I put it on my SSD. Runs flawlessly now.
if you're running new games off a hard drive in 2023, todd is absolutely right and you should just spend the 50 bucks on an ssd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCGD9dT12C0
Get a new game engine, Todd. Bethesda owns id Software. id Tech is right where.
I mean, it's Bethesda we're talking about. They've probably done enough optimization for it to run on consoles, but went completely unhinged on pc, expecting modders to fix their game. And they will. I'd just like a polished experience for 70€
Games are somehow too CPU heavy these days even though they aren't simulating the entire world like Kenshi, just stuff around you, so even though I upgraded my gpu I can barely get to 30fps. Also had this problem with Wolong, Hogwarts and Wild Hearts.
This is what happens when consoles improve their CPUs.
Suddenly they've got more cycles than they know what to do with, so they waste them on frivolous unnoticeable shit. Now you don't have that extra headroom to get you from console 30fps to PC 60fps+. You're on a much more even footing than PCs ever were with the underpowered (even at release) PS4 and Xbox One.
You'll struggle to get a CPU that does double what a PS5 can, and if it's being held back by a single thread performance (likely), there's nothing you'll be able to do to get double that.
I find all the jokes in these comments about having 4090's particularly hilarious considering that the problems seem to be with NVIDIA drivers and performance is better on AMD.
Which kind of makes sense because Xbox uses AMD.
My PC runs better games just fine.
Instead of cracking jokes he should improve the piss poor optimization.
Can’t even render 50fps consistently on a Strix 3090OC at 1620p (accounting for resolution scale), what a joke.
Edit: Scratch that, it’s even worse, averaging around 40 fps with HUB Quality settings, so not even on Ultra and my 12900K is nowhere near bottlenecking.
What a joke.
After some tweaking of settings, games runs fine. I shouldn't HAVE to do those things, but it's doing fine now
For reference, 3700x, rtx 2070s. Game heavily gpu bound. 50-60fps, no lag, no stutter , no whatever, honestly I never noticed losing a couple of fps, and that's just in crowded cities/areas, in other place it'll go higher.
What I did :
After doing this, everything has been 100% fine and never had any other issues. Before, I sometimes had slideshow in new Atlantis, heavy stutter, occasionnal massive fps drops. But these 3 things have 100% resolved my issues entirely
dlss render scale 50%
That image guaranteed looks like shit. I am sorry but that is not fine.
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