This is not an isolated issue. This is how we treat animals and other humans (regarding the harpooning, we only do it figuratively to other humans, not literally).
Go vegan.
People's morality about slaughtering meat is going to flip so hard once we get affordable lab grown meat, future generations will think of us as utter savages. But until then I don't think it's going to happen at scale
I doubt, it's going to make any sudden jumps. We have various vegan meat alternatives already, which are good, and you still have plenty people that feel personally attacked by the existence of morals, because they base their personality on eating dead animals.
What does veganism have to do with opposing whale hunting?
It's not just whales, one could draw the same comic about other animals being hunted or factory farmed, it would be very traumatic to live through. In fact Disney made an animated one about deer.
Factory farming is indeed very bad. But the way to fix it isn't to go vegan. The way to fix it is to campaign legislators to change the laws to stop factory farming. And being vegan, you've basically deleted yourself from that particular equation. Because now no one has any reason to listen to you on the subject.
Your point makes no sense.
I thought I provided that connection by mentioning the harm we're doing to almost all animals.
If you eat basically any form of meat, I have some bad news for you...
I do give deer hunting a pass because they're overpopulated in places (because humans wiped out their native predators).
Feel free to try and change my mind so I can wipe that off my ever-shrinking personal "ethically ok to eat meats" list. For all I know this is one of those lies I was raised with that I've not examined since childhood. Edit: context is in Kentucky, USA 20 years ago. I don't know about deer populations elsewhere and elsewhen.
Former vegan, current pescatarian here.
Dont stop hunting, please. Humans did a phenomenal job of ensuring a required hunting season for deer by wiping out all the natural predators, now without them we have to have culls. If you participate in said culls, PLEASE eat the meat, use the pelt, give the antlers to your dog. We've forced ourselves into a position where some of us MUST take up the mantle of predator. If you choose to, just be responsible with the carcass so it didn't die for no good reason.
Edit: accidentally lied, I'm not a vegetarian I'm a pescatarian who outside of her 6 shrimp a week is vegan.
To add a wrinkle: there's now "farmed deer". It's supposedly more environmentally friendly than farmed cow, but I don't like it because •vague feelings I've not fully examined•.
So don't assume any venison you find in the grocery store was hunted.
Wow, thanks, I hate it!
Vague feelings? I think your feelings are pretty spot-on, farming an animal whose population is already excessive in the wild is bizarre.
Wild deer are more environmentally friendly than farmed deer.
The feelings are vague because I can't put them confidently into words, but your explanation resonates.
Or drink milk. Vegetarians don't get a pass.
I only drink polar bear milk. I find the chalky cod liver oil taste delightful.
Crazy that some seem to suggest you can't care about whales heading towards extinction without being a level 6 Vegan.
Yup. I’m very opposed to whaling - they’re magnificent creatures - but I’m not giving up my hamburger any time soon.
I mean you can, you're just somewhat of a hypocrite
How much experience does it take to level up, btw?
I mean yes, but what do you think happens to regular fish
Many of us are against that too. Whales just happen to be exceedingly intelligent and capable of forming powerful emotional bonds
Farm animals have it even worse
Whales are the farmers of the sea. They fertilize the open oceans and produce more food than they eat. Especially the biggest ones, like the fin whales Japan has decided to hunt again. So if you like sea food, maybe don't kill the whales.
Tried making a joke here before reading more about it and now I regret the joke so I edited this out.
I don't mean to be that guy but, whales are delicious. And you get approx 3500kg of meat (low estimate) from a minke whale, whereas you'll get about 75kg from a commercially farmed pig. Meaning you have to kill 46 pigs to get the same amount of meat as 1 whale.
Both pigs and whales are intelligent and emotionally developed animals. Whales live free and normal lives up until the point of their harpooning, whereas pigs are kept in filthy overcrowded conditions and kept alive with antibiotics because they wouldn't last long without them. They are of course eventually killed, but unlike cattle they don't get a quick death from a bolt gun to the head. No pigs are asphyxiated with carbon dioxide. They spend the last moments of their tortured existence choking to death.
That doesn't take into account the massive environmental impact of large pig farms. Because pigs eat more nitrogen rich food than other farm animals, their feces leads to over nitrification of anything downstream and eutrophication of waterways.
So if you are sitting there chomping a bacon sandwich and bitching and moaning about whaling, take a long hard look in the mirror, because the pig farming you support is immeasurably worse both ethically and environmentally.
I get the point you're trying to make but if people ate whale the same way we ate pig the entire ocean ecosystem would have collapsed by now.
Not to mention almost all whale species are on their way to being endangered right now, while factory farmed pigs aren't.
Maybe just go with the line all meat is murder rather bacon is worse then whale flesh lmao.
It's okay, it's for scientific research !
I know it's not, it's just the garbage excuse they've been using for decades
This is why "/s" exists
Well usually it's more injure the child so mom stays close then murder both.
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