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[-] donuts@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago
[-] ultrahamster64@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Now and then, we all get a thought

[-] Not_Dav3@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

That stops us in our tracks

[-] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Came here to make sure that was posted, LOL

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[-] egrets@lemmy.world 58 points 2 months ago

The problem with recognizing Pluto is that Eris, Haumea, Makemake, Gonggong, Quaoar, Sedna, Ceres, Orcus, and perhaps also Salacia also should probably be included, and that makes for a nightmare of a mnemonic. As we all know, classification is decided on mnemonic plausibility.

[-] CuriousRefugee@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 2 months ago

My Very Educated Mother's Cousin Just Served Us Nine Outstanding Pizzas - (Somehow,) Her Quiche Might Get Officially Surpassed

Now, you only have to remember that Makemake and Orcus are in the Kuiper belt (past Neptune's orbit), and that maybe that Salacia is optional, and you can puzzle out the two repeated letters.

I spent too long on this.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, there never was an option to keep 9 planets. It was either 8, all of which are already familiar, or many many more. And they wouldn't all be added neatly at the end either. Removing Pluto was the sensible choice.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Possibly over 100.

[-] lemmyartistforhire@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

What's the problem with having many many planets in our solar system? You don't have to remember them all.

We also have many many stars in our galaxy. We don't have to know their names for them to still be stars.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

You don't ever see people calling for Ceres to be proclaimed planet, all they care about is Pluto.

[-] lemmyartistforhire@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think Pluto having been widely regarded as a planet before and having a visible heart shape on it's surface is an easier sell. I say they are both planets.

What’s the problem with having many many planets in our solar system?

You also can't find a good problem with this, can you?

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I say they are both planets.

Cool. Can you name all planets in the Solar System, in the correct order?

[-] lemmyartistforhire@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago
[-] Klear@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah. To answer your question, I see that as the problem. If you don't, well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

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[-] Guidy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

It’s only a problem when you reach a certain level of astronomical knowledge. 99% of us don’t and won’t give a shit and think the people who decided Pluto’s no longer a planet are simply assholes.

All adults know what a “grandfather clause” is and are capable of applying that to Pluto.

Pluto is and will always be Hot Shit.

[-] Bougie_Birdie 9 points 2 months ago

Pluto is and will always be Hot Shit.

Actually, it's very cold on Pluto. Which makes Pluto cooler than Fonzie

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Technically, you don't know Fonzie's temperature. And before you go and say "human temperature," the Fonz is a fictional character, so all bets are off.

[-] lemmyartistforhire@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

the people who decided Pluto’s no longer a planet

Yes. Fuck Mike Brown. I don't know why many people still let him dictate what to think of as a planet. The concept of "planet" is entirely man-made and doesn't follow any god given or universal criteria. While some astronomers argue that our moon is a planet too, the current criteria would even de-classify earth as a planet, should it get knocked out of our solar system.

I see Pluto as a Planet, and have yet to see a good argument against it.

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[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Yet Mercury is in the same category as Jupiter...as though they are similar in any way. "Planet" is one of the few times science has decided to change something for the sole purpose of keeping the Earth important in its classification. I suppose we could not have 15 or 20 or 40 planets because that would be confusing...yet we have almost 1000 moons. It is ONLY because it is the Earth's classification...no other reason. It doesn't make anything easier or less confusing.

They could have easily made mercury, pluto, and a dozen others dwarf planets, Venus Earth and Mars terrestrial planets and the others gas planets... but that would demote Earth.

Weird left over geocentrism remaining in science like it's the 1300s.

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[-] lemmyartistforhire@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Pluto and the others are planets even without including them all in the mnemonic. The mnemonic is for the first 9 planets, just like you only remember the first few digits of pi.

[-] turmacar@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Pluto was not the first 9th planet. Then again we were up to 13(?) at one point.

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[-] egrets@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Ceres is between Mars and Jupiter.

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[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

The meme does get at an important point though -

Our classifications of things have no impact on the things themselves. They are descriptive, not prescriptive. We create the category “planet” as a useful tool for referring to certain categories of astronomical objects. These objects would exist whether we had words for them are not.

There are patterns in what the word “planet” describes that would also be shared, whether all of those things were called “planets” are not, but the words themselves are just useful shorthands depending on the context that we use them in. The map is not the territory; the referent is not the reference.

(This is also about sex/gender.)

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago
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[-] blinfabian@feddit.nl 11 points 2 months ago

people in the year 400 million when pluto explodes: this meme aged like milk

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

If milk still spoils in year 400m I’m out

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

It was reclassified, not decommissioned.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 2 months ago

The good thing about Pluto is it's a planet whether you believe in it or not.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

What are your thoughts on Ceres?

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 2 months ago

There's not clearing your orbit, and then there's whatever Ceres is doing.

Typical lazy Beltalowda.

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[-] bulwark@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I mean, can you imagine if it changed?

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 4 points 2 months ago

Problem is that it doesn't really circles but ellipses.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago
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[-] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

Is this for people identifying as planets but are not read as such?

[-] nulluser@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

Pluto is Chiron's moon

[-] Zoma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Still a sailor guardian bitches!

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

The current classification is a mess.

IMO, it should be a planet iff it can hold an atmosphere. I.e., it doesn't actually have to have an atmosphere, but if it had any, it should have enough surface gravity to hold that one.

If you define it that way, Pluto is just barely a planet.

[-] zqps@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

So whatever hypothetical density constitutes an atmosphere becomes the arbitrary line in the sand.

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

Well, yeah. But even so, it's still better than the current definition. Many "planets" have not, in fact, cleared their orbit.

[-] turmacar@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Planet has never been very well delineated. The Sun was a "planet". Ceres was a "planet".

When we find enough things to break up the classification, we make a new classification. Like "asteroid" or "dwarf planet" or "gas giant".

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