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Ruby Franke formally charged with 6 counts of felony child abuse
(www.nbcnews.com)
Just reading about some of her, "parenting advice" it was obvious that she was a terrible person. And to think some people actually listened to her
Do you have an example? I dont really want to go rooting around in that rabbit hole trying to find out.
She threw their homework and other things in the trash. Said they had until the end of the day to pay cash or do chores to get it back so they could learn the real value of their things.
She took her son's bed away for seven months, apparently because he played a prank on his brother.
Oh, and the kids had to make their own school lunch in the morning. The school calls one day because her 6 year old daughter didn't have any food. She let the girl go hungry. Quote:
My hope is that she’ll be hungry and come home and go, ‘oh man, that was really painful, being hungry all day. I will make sure to always have lunch with me.
She sounds like she has "I don't really gie a fuck about my kids and don't actually want them" disease.
The only cure for which is an ass whipping. Well, she's getting jail time where that sort of thing is par for the course, so there's that.
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Withholding meals as punishment was one example I saw in a different article.
In comparison, the Geneva Convention literally forbids doing this to enemy POWs.
Ahhh child abuse. What a great parenting technique.
Missing one lunch is hardly abuse. I forgot to grab my lunch on many occasions when I was a kid and nobody even called my parents about it. I was fine.
That doesn't make her not a bad parent for all the other shit she did but if it was just this one thing it wouldn't be that bad.
There are some things that should never be used in punishment. Food, safety/security, water, sleep, education, housing, and love. She broke several of those rules when she refused to bring her kid lunch.
Child protection caseworker and previous child of abuse here: this is absolutely correct. Punishment should NEVER involve removal of a basic necessity. It should always amount to removal of a want, not a need. Taking away dessert, access to video games etc. are the only acceptable forms of punishment. This follows research that shows that taking a child’s basic necessities from them doesn’t improve behaviour, it merely adapts their attachment style to dysfunctional.
Wanted to add, most elementary schools have a policy that requires students to eat lunch. Kids don't learn on am empty stomach.
Forgetting it accidentally or not having any food does not make you a bad person. Purposely withholding food from someone in your care without the means to get their own certainly is abusive.
I agree, she shouldn't have her kids taken away for making them skip one meal. It's bad, but not horrific Tied up and injured on the other hand....
Were you six years old?
Roughly, and my parents worked an hour away from the school too so it's not like they could have brought me a lunch in time anyway if they'd been notified.
Not defending her other actions, but the case I heard on NPR this morning they are using against her, was her daughter was assigned to make her own lunch to take to school. She didn't do it and then had the school call this woman to bring her lunch. Mom said the natural consequence of failing to make your lunch and bring it was to not have lunch. On this ONE incident, the mom is right. We have to teach our children there are natural consequences for bad decisions.
But it sounds like this one incident is the least of her charges.
If your 6 year old goes to school without lunch that's on you, not her. It might be appropriate for a 12/13 year old to be responsible for their own school lunches, but no way in hell is a first grader mature enough.
IMO it's good and fine for a 5+ year old to make their own lunch, but at that age it's absolutely important and necessary for parents to double check that it's fine and they've got it with them.
Yeah, the punishment for forgetting to make your lunch at 5 should be mom or dad makes you something boring and bland instead, not they let you starve for a day.
I don't even think there should be a punishment. Children aren't tiny adults with the same kinds of obligations we have. If they don't make their lunch their parents should make them a nice lunch, it should just be part of the kids routine of learning life skills to make lunch.
I think you misheard. This NPR article https://www.npr.org/2023/09/01/1197289217/ruby-franke-utah-youtube-child-abuse from 5 days ago mentions that as part of the controversy over her, but doesn't mention it in connection with the charges. There's another short one from 2 hours ago that doesn't bring up the lunches at all.
one time as punishment she cancelled christmas for the younger 2.. the older 2 got presents like usual. another time she didn't allow her oldest son to sleep in his room for 6 months oh and he slept on a bean bag during those months... when he did have a room he wasn't allowed to have a door. if you want to see examples check out mormon stories podcast. they go into detail.
That probably means they're also terrible.
This is very common homeschooling education.
Homeschooling doesn't automatically mean child abuse. I was homeschooled and knew a lot of homeschooled kids, and none of us were ever abused.
A child abuser will abuse children and good people don't. It's as simple as that.
Not every homeschooled child is abused, but when I worked for CPS, a HELL of a lot of abusive families used it as a means to keep their kids away from those pesky mandatory reporters.
That's fair. I definitely think it needs better oversight, if it's to exist at all.
Absolutely, not only for child welfare, but for basic education standards. I've seen homeschool be everything from structured classes for 8 hours, to sit here and read the Bible for 8 hours.
none of us were ever abused.
That you know about. You can't speak for what other kids in other families might have been going through.
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What is this a chatgpt story? There is almost no substance....
Are we really as society going to look at websites like this that are 1% story content? 99% add content that frankly I visually dont even process?
Am I the only one? I literally wouldn't click on an add link even if it was something I want!
This isn't the entire story, just a snippet that was copied from the full story, which is linked in OP.
The article contains quite a big error too. Her two eldest children are over 18, have moved out and and are estranged from their mother. The eldest daughter actually helped the police, she posted on Instagram (or maybe TikTok) from outside the house when her mother was arrested. Initial reports said two of the children found in the house weren’t hers but I don’t think they’re the other lady’s either, she’s in her late 50 iirc.
On my feed the thumbnail for this is a multiple picture's of a mouse eating a cherry tomato....
I found this so funny, I mean what a tragic news story but such a cute sounding collage of photos, such contrast.
It's scary to think that some dumbasses took parenting advice from this psychopath. There really should be some sort of test one has to take before becoming a parent.
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