The Moscow middle class are about to get a very real taste of the war.
They should have done this a year ago, though now’s the second best time.
I hope this announcement means that the Taurus missiles are already in Ukrainian hands, and ideally one of them is rapidly approaching a high-value target that has hitherto been considered safe.
They should have done it at the start of the conflict
Or admitted Ukraine to NATO the first time Putler started making expansionist noises towards it.
The concept was very clearly to slowly push Putin red line, let him walk it back a little, rince and repeat. Because like it or not, Putin has nuclear weapons and that's enough of a threat to not take the risk of skipping steps up the escalation ladder.
Slava Ukraine! Strike hard, strike deep, and let 'em feel the burn.
Am I the only one surprised to see the USians supporting this? In spite of Trump. Just great!
If anyone can share details on this.. It would be very welcome
Trump probably doesn't understand what it means
Perhaps not... I always considered he could be Putin's puppet. I know he 'simply' admires another dictator but still, I always entertained the hypothesis... Just for being cynical, you know? :p
Under such POV, he's just waging war. There should be some interest (i.e. looking forward to the autoproclaimed "peace" negotiations)..
Time will tell xD
Am I the only one surprised to see the USians supporting this? In spite of Trump.
Trump supports the MIC first and foremost
Good hunting, I assume they know the location of more than one dacha belonging to Vlad
Slava Ukraini
I was just wondering to myself how long the West intended to just eat Russia's shit when it comes to this constant disinformation undermining the integrity of their states before they would stop playing by the rules even the tiniest little bit. Unless every single Western leader is compromised it just didn't make sense - and that level of compromise just didn't seem likely. Maybe this is it.
I think it's more about keeping Putler away from the nuke button. The West can easily take Russia. But Putler is an evil man who might prefer a burning world over defeat.
Xi has actually been the one slapping Putin's wrist whenever the Russian dictator makes threats with nukes, even if the threats are empty. With three years of empty repetitive threats and Xi leashing Putin about it, this may have emboldened the West to finally allow Ukraine deep strikes and thinking to themselves "aww..the dog is all bark after all."
Although on the one hand, some countries are still reliant on Russian gas and oil imports and receive them in stealthy ways. So the other motivation is not just fear of nukes, but also the possibility of economic paralysis if oil and gas supplies are affected.
Winning a nuclear war is unfortunately still losing
A STRANGE GAME. THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS NOT TO PLAY.. ... HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF CHESS?
Finally. But what's been going on in Russia isn't making sense either.
Consider: Some estimates show Russia used 69 missiles and 298 drones between May 23-25.
Googling, "How much does a Russian drone cost?" gives: The cost of Russian drones varies significantly depending on the type and capabilities. Some cheaper drones like the "Ghoul" quadcopter cost as little as $500, while others, like the Shahed-136, are estimated to range from $20,000 to $80,000. More advanced drones, such as the Merlin-VR, can cost over $300,000
So let's say they used a mid-range drone, call it $30,000. 298 of them is $8,940,000.
Google again, "How much does a Russian missile used against Ukraine cost?". Lots of variation, but call it $500,000 for each of the 69 used, for a total of $34,500,000.
So, for this two-day attack, they spent about $43-44 million dollars. And Google again, "How many people were killed in Ukraine May 23-25" says, "at least 12".
Twelve people killed for $44 million. How stupid can you get? Do the Russians realize they could have simply bought the land they want in the Ukraine, if they'd done so through a dummy corporation or something like that?
I realize it's the whole, "terror" thing, but frankly Ukraine ain't terrified.
And now they're going to be really well armed, and off the chain.
The war never made economic sense. Russia was well off before, with a huge reserve. It could have invested in its own people. But it did not.
Even the second most important city of Russia, St Petersburg, is in shit ruins with infrastructure falling apart.
Well if you invest it into your people and infrastructure you can't line you friends pockets 🤷♂️
Thinking about this in terms of money spent is the wrong mindset. That 44 million dollars went from the hands of one Russian into the hands of another. And it even counts towards their GDP. On the other side, 12 Ukrainians are dead. Think about that. Depopulation, especially of working aged people is what's really going to hurt your economy, not spending money on weapons.
As a sidenote, politicians often want you to believe that you can't have nice things because "there isn't enough money". That is just bullshit.
Excellent points. While on the outside it does look like the Russians could have bought out all of Eastern Ukraine's homeowners/farmers/citizens for $1 mil apiece, spent less money and still got the territory they want, it isn't that simple.
Missile strikes like this are for damaging infrastructure as much as killing people. If they did enough economic damage it was worth the strike.
For example, look at that recent strike where Ukraine blew up that huge Russian ammo depot. Even if they killed nobody (that’s what Russia claimed lmao), it took out 264,000 tons of missiles, drones, and artillery shells!
Let's see if this forces the Russians to negotiate in good faith. Either way, now the ukrainians can fight better
Here comes a senseless world war. Here's hoping Russia backs down fast.
It's funny how, according to online commenters, every single thing the west did in support of Ukraine over the last few years would cause a new world war. We should be at WW42 by now!
I'm of service age, labour (uk government) and the Tories tickled around the idea of national service and patriotism has been ramping up in the last year.
We tried appeasement before the last World War and that doesn't work. You've got to stand up to bullies.
Fascism can only be defeated through the power of incredible violence. Kindness and compassion don't mean anything to fascists beyond something to exploit.
Death to Fascists
The world war is already here, it's just not all-out yet. This policy change isn't going to be the instigator of it.
Regardless of Trump, the US is not the preeminent military or economic power in the world anymore. Further, the global climate is changing. As such, a global reshuffling of resources and alliances is inevitable.
Estonian military expert: Russia's actions show they don't really believe they can defeat Ukraine
Russia is trying to convince the world that they are winning their war on Ukraine, yet reality demonstrates the opposite, independent Riigikogu MP and Brigadier General (ret.) Alar Laneman said.
Good and hopefully the weapons will tear new assholes into the Muscovites. Destroy the fucking Kerch bridge too!
Mr. Zelenskyy, remember to send one to the White House with a thank you note.
giving what was lost in 1994 to ukraine too?,
It'd be really nice if the US could decide which side they were on. Obviously we don't really want them to be on the side of Russia but this flip-flopping is confusing.
I personally think that the U.S. is at moment a subsidiary of Donald Trump & Silicon Valley Enterprise LLC. Could be wrong, of course, that's just an opinion formed out of the news in recent months.
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