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submitted 1 year ago by flamingos@feddit.uk to c/feddituk@feddit.uk

Good day all, in response to the increase in transphobia we've experience since the For Women Scotland v Scotland Supreme Court decision, seemingly a mix of genuine malice and people tripping up with a topic they're unfamiliar with, I've taken the initiative to write some guidelines on how to engage in the topic and clearing up some common misconceptions.

https://guide.feddit.uk/politics/transphobia.html

I'm not all that happy with them, I want something more comprehensive but my time has been pretty taxed lately and I don't want my perfectionism to stand in the way of having these out. If there's any issues, glaring omissions or whatnot, then please let me know or make a pull request here.

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[-] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 year ago

the title makes it sound like this is a post on how to be transphobic. it's very funny pls don't change it.

[-] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 40 points 1 year ago

Step One: write a harry potter book

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 22 points 1 year ago

Step two: Open an X account

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago

Step 3: Buy a massive mouldy castle in scotland

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Step zero point five: absolutely butcher Latin

[-] Patch@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

I think you mean "carnifico Latinum!"

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Should we all be transphobic now father?

[-] ada 39 points 1 year ago

Thank you! I appreciate the work you've put in to this!

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 17 points 1 year ago

Great initiative. Looks pretty well written from my point of view.

What's going to happen to repeated guideline breakers ?

[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 15 points 1 year ago

Depends on which guideline they break. The 41% one will probably be an insta-ban. Others will likely be an initial warning followed by temp bans escalating to a permaban.

[-] scuppie 15 points 1 year ago

I'm trans and I learned a lot myself from this. I might have brought up the 41% thing and not knowing its use, miscommunicated what I meant in support of trans rights. Glad to have read this, being trans doesn't automatically make you aware of every aspect of the conversations.

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I imagine it would still depend on context. The guidelines don't say that the 41% figure is inaccurate (and from some extremely light googling of the cited organisation, ASFSP doesn't appear to be an anti trans pressure group so i'm inclined to take that figure on its face value). thus talking about that figure in the context of a wider discussion on trans issues, which absolutely includes a sky high suicide rate, is probably fine.

But as the guidelines say; using that figure to encourage someone to commit suicide is almost certainly a contravention. As is using it to justify ignoring a trans person or trans persons basic right to self determination

That said i'm not a mod, i'm not in their heads, so i could be wrong

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago
[-] lemonmelon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

I appreciate the care you've put into this. By choosing a neutral tone, you have created a framework that allows for opposing viewpoints to exist in discussions of the topic so long as the participants stay within established guidelines. I believe that this approach is an even-handed way to limit fanaticism and promote acceptance.

Perfection, though sometimes alluring, is an exhausting pursuit. What you've accomplished is realistic, immediately applicable, and amendable. In my opinion, that is infinitely more useful than the ever-fleeting notion of attainable perfection.

Well done, in both the creation of the document and in your personal effort to not allow perfectionism to stand in the way of something good.

[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

Love to see this - far too many people perpetuating transphobia :(

[-] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not sure trans phobia and perpetrated are correct terms. The purpetrrate tends to indicate a choice. Where phobia dose not tend to.

A phobia is an irrational fear but normally not one that can be controlled.

Transfasism may be a better term.

[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I said perpetuating not perpetrating and transphobia is the correct word

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/transphobic

coming from or having a fear or dislike of transgender or non-binary people (= people whose gender does not match the body they were born with)

related to policies, behaviours, rules, etc. that result in a continued unfair advantage to cisgender people (= people whose gender matches the body they were born with) and unfair or harmful treatment of transgender or non-binary people (= people whose gender does not match the body they were born with)

Anti-trans fascism is a different word choice you could use, sure

[-] Hol@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

Really great to see this. You’ve clearly put in some serious thought and reflection to come up with something that draws a sensible line in the sand.

[-] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago

That's a really concise, clear and well written guide. Worth reading for general life, not just for feddit.

Thanks for taking the time to put that together :)

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago

I was going to facetiously say

  • Step 1: don't be a bigot
  • Step 2: there is no step 2

But those guidelines are a pretty good description of how to follow step 1 on this issue, so let's adjust it to

  • Step 1: don't be a bigot
  • Step 2: if in doubt, read those guidelines
  • Step 3: see step 1
[-] discreetelite@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's crazy we even need guidelines to not be an asshole lol

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

That is awesome! I can't even find anything to complain about, and I'm a whiner.

No bullshit, doing that is an act of goodness, and I'd hug your neck if we ever met.

[-] JohnSmith@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

Well written and well judged. You and others in the feddit.uk admin team continue to be an exemplar.

[-] Blaze@piefed.social 9 points 1 year ago

Thank you for this!

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago

Very well written, clear and concise! Thanks for putting the time and effort into creating this.

[-] ns1@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

Good update, thank you for doing this

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Excellent writeup! I love seeing these.

Minor spelling mistake: The heading 'Transgenerism'/Gender ideology is missing a "d".

[-] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

I've been hiding in a builders merchant for the last month, but thought I'd poke my head out to say thankyou for writing this up.

Giving a framework for discussion, but making it clear that using it as a stick to beat trans people with will not be tolerated, is a very good way to organise things.

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