The increase in retail sales is a powerful one for local businesses, who usually argue against this kind of thing.
They are arguing in bad faith - their true motivation is that they want a parking space for themselves right outside the business
I struggle to believe that most people are that set on not walking at most 5 mins that they are willing to loose out on that much extra money.
I was in Salt Lake City yesterday. Was one of the most bike friendly cities I’ve ever been to in the US. A group ride with 100s of people was happening until midnight. There was also decent public transportation and tons of rentable bicycles and scooters galore. Ya’ll should be proud of what you’ve done there downtown.
Granted it was still an American city. There was still loud car traffic and lengthy timed crosswalks.
But it did give me an idea. What if cars were prohibited from downtown? If there were well placed parking decks surrounding the square? What if shipping trucks used back alleys or were infrequent enough that they could drive on walking surfaces? People would walk or use bikes or scooters to get where they need to go. Perhaps a hop-on-hop-off train or buses or tram for longer commutes for those who cannot or choose not to walk?
The streets would be quiet. Green spaces abound interspersed among the buildings. The city could be built for people and life instead of cars.
how would downtown get deliveries of any kind?
Outside peak hours, by very slow-moving delivery vehicles. This is a solved problem all over Europe
There are plenty of cities around the world with downtowns closed to cars, and a lot of thriving stores.
There are solutions, this is not an excuse to to allow cars in city centers
In Barcelona they converted the grids so instead of having all traffic on every street it is one for cars in direction a, one for pedestrians and cyclists and then one for cars in the other direction and again one for pedestrians and cyclists etc, they still manage to stock stores etc so it's very possible.
too bad we have a bike org here that has browbeat the city into allowing it to ignore traffic ordinances.
Is this really the first one? Feel like I’ve seen many in many cities…
I feel like this isn't the first one in Manhattan.
Does the West Side Highway or the 6th Ave. one not count?
This is what a proper bike lane looks like. We need more of these.
people will still find ways for vehicles to hit them
was in the city yesterday and someone decided to walk behind a reversing vehicle that was leaving the parking space then proceeded to blame them
also speed limits are not enforced in the United States very well
we need either one or the other and don't have the transportation technology for both at this current point in time
someone decided to walk behind a reversing vehicle that was leaving the parking space then proceeded to blame them
You mean someone backed their car into a pedestrian without making sure the way was clear?
You might have forgotten over half of all people are idiots. Driver and pedestrian alike. No excuse for the driver not looking out being the liable one, but a lot of people walk right into shit because they're either: not paying attention, think if something happens they can sue for money, or are frankly idiots.
I bike or walk everywhere I go, so I'm familiar with having to watch out for drivers. That being said, I think the person operating thousands of pounds of steel bears more responsibility than anyone just walking around. You're controlling a machine capable of killing people, you should really pay attention to what you're doing.
Instead of increasing surveillance to enforce, we should be designing streets to encourage slower driving.
Kinda happy to see youre expanding your bad takes outside the political communities.
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