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[-] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemm.ee 88 points 3 weeks ago

This isn't a fucking meme. It's a great quote, but doesn't belong here.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 42 points 3 weeks ago

Almost no modern "memes" are actually memes anymore.

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago

What do you think a meme is?

[-] irmoz@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

How isn't it a meme? It's an idea that's been repeated and passed through many people, surviving in its distilled but still exploitable form.

[-] Thelie@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago

So, I looked up the term on Wikipedia. It sais: "An Internet meme, or meme ([/miːm/], [MEEM]), is a cultural item (such as an idea, behavior, or style) that spreads across the Internet, primarily through social media platforms]. Internet memes manifest in a variety of formats, including images, videos, GIFs], and other viral content. Key characteristics of memes include their tendency to be parodied, their use of intertextuality, their viral dissemination, and their continual evolution. The term meme was originally introduced by Richard Dawkins in 1972 to describe the concept of cultural transmission." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_meme

I'll let you be the judge of whether this fits that definition or not. (And whether it's worth your time arguing about something being a meme).

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[-] TimboSlice@discuss.online 6 points 3 weeks ago

Sometimes people will only see things through certain avenues. In this case, a not-so-accurate category.

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 13 points 3 weeks ago

"I know, but I wanted people to see it"

This type of behaviour is bannable on platforms with functioning moderation

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 13 points 3 weeks ago

Thank god this place doesnt have functioning "moderation". The fediverse is literally the last place on earth where billinaires dont tell you what to do.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Moderation is not bad in itself, it is curating of content to keep topics on track and quality above a certain limit. It has absolutely nothing to do with billionaires or their desires. A lot of subs on different instances are really shitty because of lacking moderation. Leaving subs completely unmoderated is a recipe for a disaster shitpile.

The good old forum days also had a lot of moderation to keep them from turning to shit.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago

For a time I lived awakened by the birds and a purring kittty and the golden dawn.

I would evacuate and then make a pot of French press and sit and and enjoy a cigarette and caffeine while my kitty and I watched hummingbirds flit among them flowers.

I would sleep when my work was done and I was tired. I’d bathe before bed and curl up with the kitty purring at my feet.

Minutes are a human construct. Rebel against them.

[-] Photuris@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago

Cool. How’d you monetize this, exactly, and how well did it pay?

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

Magic and pushing buttons in the right order.

[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds absolutely lovely, alas unsustainable in the current world and at least my current region.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, people are the worst.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I have never been more motivated by the complete absence of a social safety-net, than each day I have spent unemployed.

As Americans, perhaps we behave this way largely to do normalization and indoctrination. And maybe some are tacitly aware of the fragility of this arrangement. But for those of us that have stared into the financial and classist chasm that sits beneath us all, it vastly exceeds any unease you might feel from not keeping up with your peers.

[-] Angelusz@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah turns out usa didn't reinvent the wheel super good or something. You have all been scammed under the pretense of liberty.

Now go fix it.

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 weeks ago

6:30 am? In my city, the streets are already packed with working class people at 6:00 am.

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[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Easy. Money. Pay me well and I'll do it.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

Best we can do is $3.50.

What do you MEAN no??? People just don't want to work these days!!!

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

We need to do something about that. We've built this neat "factility" here where you will "live" so you stop breaking the law. Yes, you will have to work there and your windows have bars. What do you mean forced labour? You broke the law by not working!

[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Hmmmm. Sounds like something UBI could solve.

[-] underline960@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago

Except there are a lot of people who believe that the homelessness and suffering is natural, correct, and deserved.

[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Maybe in America, but in most other places homelessness isn't demonised nearly as much (also America is probably the only place that will make you homeless if you get seriously ill).

I think somewhere in the Nordic states, they've trialled UBI in an area and I think with success.

Edit: So the results are a mixed bag, as you would expect, but generally people were much happier with UBI.

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[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago

we live in a culture where the value of your life is measured by how much money you have

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 weeks ago

we live in a culture where the value of your life is measured by how much money you ~~have~~ can make for your owner

[-] myrrh@ttrpg.network 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Calvin Candie: Your boss looks a little green around the gills.
Django: He just ain't used to seein' a man ripped apart by dogs is all.
Calvin Candie: But you are used to it?
Django: I'm just a little more used to Americans than he is.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

90% of this is just good hygiene.

[-] Artaca@lemdro.id 14 points 3 weeks ago

A lot of people skip the fighting traffic part of their hygiene routines and it shows smh

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[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Imagine life as a video game where you must find the way through a maze, discover keys and find treasures in order to win.
For example, you must find a way to sustain yourself (a maze), find the key to health (power) and avoid the beasts (corporate control).
People spend thousands of hours playing all sorts of games but neglect to properly play the game of life, instead they accept what they are offered by the power players.

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[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

This has triggered a vague memory of a joke by someone (I think Douglas Adams?). But I can't remember the full quote so putting this out there in case someone knows it.

Basically humanity was smarter than other animals because we didn't adapt ourselves to the environment, but adapted the environment to suit us. So now instead of having to adapt we just have to... wake up at 6:45 am when the alarm goes off, drive to work at 7 30 am etc.

Does anyone know it or was I having some kind of fever dream?

[-] Harashi@jlai.lu 7 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

That's it! Thank you, that was really bugging me. No idea why I thought it was Douglas Adams 🤦‍♂️

[-] saimen@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

But if you do all this self employed its suddenly fine?

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

If you do it because you do it for yourself (and presumably want to), it's much better, yes.

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If you are self employed, why are you making lots of money for somebody else?

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[-] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

there is no ethical consumption

[-] padook@feddit.nl 4 points 3 weeks ago

Everyone needs to go watch the movie 'Barfly' right now. Its about Charles Bukowski and it's awesome

[-] plyth@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago

The answer is maturity. Structure does not hurt if it is chosen voluntarily. It feels good to do things exactly as intended.

Waking up at 6:30 doesn't hurt if sleep started early and without being drunk.

The big tragedy is that society does everything to keep as many people as possible in a state of disarray. People to whom life is as described above don't have the will to leave bad employment situations behind.

[-] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago

Well, nothing is that simple, in fact one of the biggest problems in society is that each of us has their own biological clock, with preferred activity and sleep hours, yet we are forced to align our schedules to the same universal standard. Of course, it is absolutely vital for the way our current society functions (because we, as a society, work together, take classes together, commute together, socialise together, celebrate together, and so on), but it definitely has been hurting billions of people for the past thousands of years and we should look for a way to eliminate this system as soon as possible.

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