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[-] RandomStickman@fedia.io 200 points 2 months ago

Then: Books, Movies, Videos, Blogs, Articles Now: C O N T E N T

[-] Gonzako@lemmy.world 93 points 2 months ago

Man, I hate the word content.

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 81 points 2 months ago

I’m content with it

[-] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 months ago

Product is a word I hate.

I have a warehouse full of product.

I mean unless you're a drug smuggler... Then that's fine. But using it for random lawn mower parts is dumb I think.

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Me too. Ever since I read Richard Stallman's words to avoid article. I kinda wish I hadn't read it now lmao.

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[-] frezik@midwest.social 150 points 2 months ago

I also hate the way "algorithm" has taken over the public consciousness. You can find people unironically saying "I don't want any algorithm in my social media feed", which is a nonsensical statement.

[-] kamen@lemmy.world 68 points 2 months ago

People are onto something though - there's been a noticeable shift from social media just showing you your feed in a chronological manner to it showing you personally tailored content that shuffles on each refresh and aims to hook you into endless doomscrolling. I understand perfectly well what's an algorithm, but good luck explaining to people that it's not that specific thing.

[-] andioop@programming.dev 21 points 2 months ago

Some people actively desire this kind of algorithm because they find it easier to find content they like this way. I'm not sure if they are immune to doomscrolling and actually have gotten it to work in a way that serves them and doesn't involve doomscrolling, or if they are doomscrolling and okay with it. But for me, I really wish I could go back to the chronological feed era.

[-] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

Some people actively desire this kind of algorithm because they find it easier to find content they like this way.

Raw chronological order tends to overweight the frequent posters. If you follow someone who posts 10 times a day, and 99 people who post once a week, your feed will be dominated by 1% of the users representing 40% of the posts you see.

One simple algorithm that is almost always better for user experiences is to retrieve the most recent X posts from each of the followed accounts and then sort that by chronological order. Once you're doing that, though, you're probably thinking about ways to optimize the experience in other ways. What should the value of X be? Do you want to hide posts the user has already seen, unless there's been a lot of comment/followup activity? Do you want to prioritize posts in which the user was specifically tagged in a comment? Or the post itself? If so, how much?

It's a non-trivial problem that would require thoughtful design, even for a zero advertising, zero profit motive service.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Letting the user decide? If the user decided that they liked fly fishing 8 stars and mother-in-law 0 stars, then the algorithm would show mother-in-law once a week at best and fly fishing 8x out of 10 posts.

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[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Other day me and my mom was talking about how TV has all shifted to be nothing but reality TV... and then she said even youtube is becoming the same way... im like uh... thats because thats because you are watching it thus it is giving you more...

[-] Fabian@lemmy.zip 44 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think it's the same concept as when people say that they don't want any chemicals in their food. You know what they mean, but in a technical sense the statement is nonsensical.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I don't like that one, either.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

If you walk with algorithm, you won't attract the worm.

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[-] warbond@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

So what should we call the thing that we don't want in our social media feeds that controls what we see?

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Manipulation

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[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Let's not tell them that by definition both a shopping list and a recipe are algorithms.

[-] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 months ago

Isn't a shopping list more like a data structure? A recipe would be an algorithm. I don't know, I could be wrong.

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[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 85 points 2 months ago

I call everything a script. Makes the Java devs real mad. Makes the PM's super confused.

[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 61 points 2 months ago

A million-line project spread over a hundred files

It's a script!

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 2 months ago

sqlite is technically just one C source file, so that's definitely a script.

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[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 months ago

What I hate even more, is that the morons who can't read more than two syllables decided to shorten "application" to "app", but now I only ever hear people reading that as "ay pee pee"! What was the fucking point?

[-] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I've literally never heard anyone call it A.P.P. (and I mean that literally literally, not figuratively literally)

Is this a specific cultural thing? A generational thing? Geography based slang? Why would anyone do this.

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[-] Capsicones 11 points 2 months ago

Chinese phonology doesn't allow for the pronunciation of "app", for example. I see a lot of Chinese people spelling it as "APP", and pronouncing it accordingly. It's kinda funny to me, since the Mandarin word "yingyong" is only two syllables. "APP" just seems more cumbersome by all account, yet it has become inexplicably popular.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Yingyong sounds cool. It's got yoyo vibes

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[-] bier@feddit.nl 33 points 2 months ago

In the Netherlands basically everyone uses whatsapp. In the beginning people would say send me a whatsapp or something like that. But pretty quickly people started to shorten it to just app. So people will say stuff like I just got an app (instead of message), it drives me nuts. Like my family chat group is called "app group".

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 13 points 2 months ago

In Italy people loves start up companies because they think they all make apps. And they write is as "Start apps"

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[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 months ago

Yes but imo patch is now update

[-] tvbusy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago

Patch is now Paid DLC

[-] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A long time ago I joined a new remote-first company and in my first month they made an event where they brought in all employees from all over the world for a week at a farm hotel for a mix or meetings and leisure activities.

In one specific meeting the CEO was talking app this app that and I was very confused. The product was a server side program that had a web client, an electron app and two native mobile apps. But the CEO was talking about things that didn't make sense for those apps.

At some point I interrupted the meeting and asked for clarification: what are you talking about when you say app? It's not the mobile apps?

The CEO made a funny face and mentioned an engineer. I looked at him and he had a smug face and said something along the lines of "well, go on, explain it". CEO then explained he was talking about the new big project, which was basically an extension system for the server product - and the extensions would be called apps.

That night I found that engineer at the hotel bar and asked more details about it. Turns out he was the team lead on this project and he hated the term "apps" for it and had been very vocal about it before, saying among other things that it would cause confusion with the client apps we have. Most of the company agreed with him at the time but the CEO demanded it be named apps anyway.

These days everyone there thinks that naming it apps was the right call, but I always hated having to refer to them as "server extension app" to avoid any confusion, specially because I often worked on integrations with third party tools and those tools also had their own stuff called apps so instead of just saying something like "the Kabum extension" I had to say "the ChaChin server Kabum app" (as in this example's context there would also be multiple Kabum clients and ChaChin clients that would all be known as apps too)

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[-] notarobot@lemm.ee 29 points 2 months ago

The other day I realized they did that because its APPle. I have no evidence but I'm sticking with it

[-] bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I think I heard "applet" being mentioned for embedded java or something in the early 2000s. I don't know if that's connected.

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[-] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The script is compiled to a program which is then executed by the OS.

->

The app is appified to an app which is then apped by the app.

Damnit.

[-] bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Web browser? "app". Web page? "app". Dialog box? "app". Phone app that's just a thin shell for the web site? "appapp".

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[-] tisktisk@piefed.social 12 points 2 months ago

I hate that this meme never explains what application meant 'back then'
I get that it's a problem now, but if it had a clear enough definition back then, maybe this couldn't have occurred the way it did?

[-] capuccino@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I always understood "application" like a gadget in the software world that just resolved one specific problem, and had that own definition till got distorted

[-] noctivius@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

linux app download free no registration

[-] phr@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 months ago

$ sudo appt-get install app

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[-] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I felt like I was alone in being frustrated at this trend. However I found a bit of relief to discover, through messing around in a Win98 virtual machine, that they were occasionally using the term "app" back then as well. Of course it wasn't as ubiquitous as it is now, but whatever.

Also I thought I'd never see the Xbox kid meme again. What an unexpected throwback!

[-] perishthethought@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago

This is really, "what techs call it" and "what non-techs call it".

As a tech, I usually know what someone means when they "app".

It's "glitch" that drives me mad though. Glitch sounds like a ghost caused the error one tine only, versus some lazy coder.

[-] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

To be fair i would consider a glitch to be closer to a ghost causing it than a lazy developer.

I consider a "bug" to be something caused by the code (bad error handling, bad logic, etc) and a "glitch" to be something more random or environmental

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[-] nuko147@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

They trying the Algorithm to AI nowdays.

[-] _____@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

I very much hate the word app. That's probably my biggest boomer trait.

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