Being in prison sucks though. No matter what. I mean Norwegian prisons are very clean and remarkably comfortable, and Japanese prisons have top notch food (freshly cooked and with fresh ingredients). But I would rather not have the choking lack of freedom in any of them.
I'm sure there's a starving person in poverty that would disagree. Terrible thought but desperation is common in the working class.
stories of people robbing a bank for $1 to get into prison for medical care comes to mind
For many people, being imprisoned in one of these places would grant them a lot more freedom than they currently have.
If you are safe from the prisoners and guards, get clean accommodations, are well fed, get outside/gym time for fitness, medical care, time to learn a vocation or study, occasional entertainment time (tv or whatever)... the only thing missing is a romantic partner... honestly, it sounds as good as an all inclusive retreat/vacation.
I imagine not having control over your own life for years at a time would wear one down. But months? If I knew my outside people weren't suffering because of my actions, it sounds kind of nice.
But I'm an introvert that works from home, so, I'd miss my pets.
There are norwegian prison communities where they can do pretty much anything you could so in a normal community. There are like 5 guards for the entire community.
Wasn't it Sweden that forgot to lock the prisoners up so they went and baked cakes?
Pretty much this. According to Varg Vikernes Norwegian prisons are mostly filled with crazy people.
But american prisons generate more profit for the private sector. So who can really say which system is better?
The one with the least amount of repeat offenders.
Why would a for-profit business not want repeat customers?
For-profit prison inmates are more like slaves than customers.
Excellent point, slave labour can be another revenue stream
Mainly because Norwegians are pretty tall
A gilded cage is still a cage. I’d rather work and pay rent and live in a modest apartment than be imprisoned in a luxury hotel that I’m not allowed to leave. Prisoners in Halden prison don’t get to set their own schedule, don’t get to quit being a prisoner and move across the country, don’t get to code with whom they live and associate.
Even with a minimum wage job you can save up enough money for a plane ticket to anywhere in the world and just leave. Or even just a bus ticket across the country to live somewhere else.
Or how about taking your girlfriend/boyfriend out on a date to a nice restaurant? Or rent a cabin in the woods for a weekend and just relax? Or go out to the bar for a few beers with a friend? Or volunteer to spend time with some elderly folks at a nursing home!
Being in prison sucks, no matter how much they dress it up. The vast majority of things you might do are closed off to you just because you can’t leave. Every single one of those prisoners knows they’re being punished. Every single one of them counts the days until their release.
Even with a minimum wage job you can save up enough money for a plane ticket to anywhere in the world and just leave.
If you make minimum wage in the city I live in you either live with your parents, have multiple roomates, or live on the street.
Everyone loves to talk about Norwegian welfare as the pinnacle of social policy while conveniently forgetting that it's a tiny country of 5.5 million people backed by a trillion dollars of oil money from the state.
Edit: I love how everyone glosses over the population size as if it has nothing to do with policy making and the politically stagnant environment of the US.
someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my country is dying-
That MIC budget is too small by at least 2 zeros if not 3
Military industrial complex $3,600,000,000
There's a whole lot of corruption packed into this number.
And as we all know, the US doesn't have any oil itself!
No, but, the oil fund isn't really used. For reference, the first withdrawal in history was in 2016. The prison system is far older than that
Sweden and Denmark are very similar. You don't need oil/gas to make it possible
It's also comparably equal.
If US wealth was equally distributed, every person would own about 450.000$
Someone else posted total inmate numbers from 2022 and it was less that 4,000. Out of 5.5 million people, that's doing really well compared to the U.S.
Here's a small comparison. Oklahoma has a population less than 5 million. Yet their prison inmate population is over 20 thousand. And if you look at all the states, it's a similar story. Especially in "red states".
The Norwegian prisons have higher standard of living than all the red run welfare Oblasts.
Sure, but only because it's summer. This time the winter they have to be carrying a flashlight wearing their winter parka.
Still, I thirst greatly for their political system, ecological ideals, in general treatment of humanity.
ecological ideals,
Only applicable to their own country. Their mining companies are all too happy to fuck other countries' environments
(roughly translated title) Norway mining company (Hydro Cred) had "clandestine pipes" to throws rejects at river sources - https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-43162472
they have to be carrying a flashlight wearing their winter parka
It's definitely not all wine and roses. I've heard their rations have been slashed to a single blowjob and massage per day. Really lackadaisical ones, too.
Any one knows how I can go to prison in Norway?
Go to Norway and commit crime.
Imma spray paint a horse cop
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