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[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 93 points 2 months ago
[-] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 88 points 2 months ago

I was about to make a joke about flying over to Norway and causing issues, but I don't want to be a jerk.

Could someone in Norway frame me and have me extradited, please?

[-] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 114 points 2 months ago

Unfortunately you're not the first person to have that thought. And from what little bit of research I did into it it seems that they would much rather just spend the money to buy you a plane ticket and send you home.

[-] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 95 points 2 months ago

Makes sense. I wouldn't want me around either.

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[-] mriswith@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Based on a quick search you could go for one of the stricter non-felony crimes and try to get a short stay. But I'm guessing you would have more sucess asking for asylum based on the border issues in the US these days.

Although there were references to a court statement from a few decades ago, about a not extraditing someone to a US prison because it might be a human rights violation. Which could potentially be brought up again these days with the current situation.

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[-] regdog@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago

But american prisons generate more profit for the private sector. So who can really say which system is better?

[-] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 17 points 2 months ago

The one with the least amount of repeat offenders.

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Why would a for-profit business not want repeat customers?

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[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 40 points 2 months ago

Being in prison sucks though. No matter what. I mean Norwegian prisons are very clean and remarkably comfortable, and Japanese prisons have top notch food (freshly cooked and with fresh ingredients). But I would rather not have the choking lack of freedom in any of them.

[-] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

I'm sure there's a starving person in poverty that would disagree. Terrible thought but desperation is common in the working class.

[-] Neuromorph@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago

stories of people robbing a bank for $1 to get into prison for medical care comes to mind

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

For many people, being imprisoned in one of these places would grant them a lot more freedom than they currently have.

[-] ericatty@infosec.pub 7 points 2 months ago

If you are safe from the prisoners and guards, get clean accommodations, are well fed, get outside/gym time for fitness, medical care, time to learn a vocation or study, occasional entertainment time (tv or whatever)... the only thing missing is a romantic partner... honestly, it sounds as good as an all inclusive retreat/vacation.

I imagine not having control over your own life for years at a time would wear one down. But months? If I knew my outside people weren't suffering because of my actions, it sounds kind of nice.

But I'm an introvert that works from home, so, I'd miss my pets.

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[-] EstonianGuy@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

There are norwegian prison communities where they can do pretty much anything you could so in a normal community. There are like 5 guards for the entire community.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

The shame of the Norwegian criminal justice system is not in how they treat their prisoners but in who they haven't gotten around to imprisoning. White Wing nationalism absolutely tearing that country to shreds.

[-] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

…you would want to ban an opposing political opinions? Really? You know that cunts like Viktor Orban and Donald Trump only ever can get elected via the absolute and complete failure of the opposition?

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[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 25 points 2 months ago

Mainly because Norwegians are pretty tall

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

A gilded cage is still a cage. I’d rather work and pay rent and live in a modest apartment than be imprisoned in a luxury hotel that I’m not allowed to leave. Prisoners in Halden prison don’t get to set their own schedule, don’t get to quit being a prisoner and move across the country, don’t get to code with whom they live and associate.

Even with a minimum wage job you can save up enough money for a plane ticket to anywhere in the world and just leave. Or even just a bus ticket across the country to live somewhere else.

Or how about taking your girlfriend/boyfriend out on a date to a nice restaurant? Or rent a cabin in the woods for a weekend and just relax? Or go out to the bar for a few beers with a friend? Or volunteer to spend time with some elderly folks at a nursing home!

Being in prison sucks, no matter how much they dress it up. The vast majority of things you might do are closed off to you just because you can’t leave. Every single one of those prisoners knows they’re being punished. Every single one of them counts the days until their release.

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Even with a minimum wage job you can save up enough money for a plane ticket to anywhere in the world and just leave.

If you make minimum wage in the city I live in you either live with your parents, have multiple roomates, or live on the street.

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[-] idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago

A good example is to see what Varg Vikernes were doing while in prison:

Burzum remained as a solo project until 1994, when Vikernes was arrested for the murder of Euronymous and the burnings of several churches in Norway. [...] While imprisoned, Vikernes managed to record two other albums in a dark ambient style. They were released as Dauði Baldrs (1997) and Hliðskjálf (1999). Both of these albums were created with a synthesizer, as Vikernes was prohibited from using any other instruments in prison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzum#Imprisonment_(1993%E2%80%932009)

[-] smee@poeng.link 12 points 2 months ago

The mass murdering child killer Breivik sued the government because he was only offered a Playstation 2, not the Playstation 3. And did not enjoy the pets he was allowed. 🤷

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[-] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Everyone loves to talk about Norwegian welfare as the pinnacle of social policy while conveniently forgetting that it's a tiny country of 5.5 million people backed by a trillion dollars of oil money from the state.

Edit: I love how everyone glosses over the population size as if it has nothing to do with policy making and the politically stagnant environment of the US.

[-] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
  • Healthcare $200
  • Data $150
  • Infrastructure $800
  • Military industrial complex $3,600,000,000
  • Culture war $150

someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my country is dying-

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[-] SkyeStarfall 14 points 2 months ago

And as we all know, the US doesn't have any oil itself!

No, but, the oil fund isn't really used. For reference, the first withdrawal in history was in 2016. The prison system is far older than that

[-] Khaliso@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 months ago

It's also comparably equal.

If US wealth was equally distributed, every person would own about 450.000$

[-] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago

That would make like 20 people lose a lot of money.

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[-] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 8 points 2 months ago

Sweden and Denmark are very similar. You don't need oil/gas to make it possible

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago

Sure, but only because it's summer. This time the winter they have to be carrying a flashlight wearing their winter parka.

Still, I thirst greatly for their political system, ecological ideals, in general treatment of humanity.

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

The Norwegian prisons have higher standard of living than all the red run welfare Oblasts.

[-] laserm@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I mean, I doubt all prisoners are locked in these prisons. I think these prisons like Halden are rewards to which the best behaving prispners get transported to. Still, the criminal justice system in these countries is awesome.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

It's not so much a reward. It's just the natural outcome when your intent is to stop crime, and not to be cruel with punishments. In most countries it is still culturally taboo, but treating people well is the first step to stopping them from committing crimes. Mental health attention is only possible when you work with person who is being treated with basic human dignity. Antisocial personalities of course are an exception who commit crimes and trespass social norms out of different reasons than common criminal but they aren't actually that frequent or common. Crime is a complex multifactor issue. More often than not it is a mix of unmet needs, opportunity and the belief that they can get away with it. If you fulfill the needs of the person in a socially acceptable and healthy way then reduce the open opportunities for crime, you can stop crime before it happens. Punishment and its harshness, on the other hand, have absolutely no impact on crime rates.

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[-] smee@poeng.link 12 points 2 months ago

No, Bastøy is is considered the prison reward for the best behaving prisoners.

During their free time, inmates have access to horseback riding, fishing, tennis, and cross-country skiing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bast%C3%B8y_Prison

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

WTF?

Time to go commit a crime in Norway

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