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[-] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

So "AOC not even close" with 26% but Kamala Harris + Pete Buttigieg + Hakeem Jeffries + Cory Booker + Gavin Newsom = 22%. And that 26% has almost guaranteed the 8% of Crockett and the 12% of Sanders. So 26 + 12 + 8 = 46% but "not even close".

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 57 minutes ago

I don't know half the people you mentioned

[-] MangioneDontMiss@lemm.ee 1 points 21 minutes ago

well at least you own up to your ignorance, more than we can say for most.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 19 points 5 hours ago

Are they... Still considering Harris for 2028??? What? Please god. Make it stop. Please.

[-] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

She's just the most recent candidate. The most recent candidates, and most recent Presidents and Vice Presidents are almost always in these sorts of lists, especially in the weeks and months following an election, before the next campaign starts.

Joe Biden was a favorite in these sorts of polls in 2015/16, despite saying he wouldn't run, because he was just VP.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago
[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 21 points 6 hours ago

I still have to lol about how the stupid qons tried to use her dancing in university as some kind of BAD thing.

Back when Denver Post still had a comment section and they'd allow gifs, and if the topic was AOC, I'd post her dancing. A few of the local wingnuts would try to get me banned/my posts removed over it, esp. if one of the qanon mods was on-duty...

She's the best. Why the buzzkills in the unhinged right tried to paint a beautiful intelligent rep like AOC dancing during college as a bad thing is anyone's guess, but that sure as fuck blew up in their faces....

[-] Sillyglow@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 hours ago

So let me get this straight: somehow just dancing is somehow worse than drinking beers in fraternities and raping?

[-] Ronno@feddit.nl 9 points 5 hours ago

I don't get it neither, let's turn it the other way: why would anyone want to vote for someone/something that doesn't show basic human emotions and doesn't have fun?

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

well Trump shows the basic emotion of love but for money only

[-] King_Bob_IV@startrek.website 3 points 3 hours ago

I disagree. He doesn't love money. He covets the respect and power that he believes money brings with it and if forever angry that even with the presidency he can't get the true respect he believes he is entitled to.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Yea that too but I feel like if someone told him "you would be the most respected person in the world and very powerful if you agree to live an economically average life (think Merkel but more modest even)", I don't think he would agree. Maybe because he thinks if he has money he can anyway buy the others but still money is not just a tool for him he is hooked on the luxuries it brings too.

[-] Feelfold@lemm.ee 11 points 5 hours ago

Zero chance the DNC will run her. They'll give us another white bread, right of center, compromise candidate. The Overton window has shifted so far right we need to build a new wall to house it.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 hours ago

The Overton Window isn't real. Political parties can create their own political realities by leading the electorate, rather than cowardly tailing the electorate like they're advertisers trying to sell a product.

[-] MangioneDontMiss@lemm.ee 1 points 19 minutes ago

sounds extremely unlikely tho.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 4 hours ago

Personally, I think it is too late to save the DNC. Best to start over in a better place.

[-] arc@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

Sorry to say but it would be a bow wrapped gift to the GOP. It's very easy to brand her a socialist and on top of that she's a woman.

[-] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

It's time for Democrats to own socialism. It's milquetoast appeals to centrism that make the party boring and come across as dishonest.

That doesn't mean being unreasonably uncompromising or unpragmatic when it comes to getting things done across the isle in government, but at least be true to your ideals and aspirations.

Bernie would have easily beaten Trump if voters had the option. AOC will likewise wipe the floor. A real alternative not more of the same.

[-] arc@lemm.ee 1 points 26 minutes ago

Actually what would happen is dem support would crash even more because the GOP playbook works. AOC will be branded a socialist, a communist, ready to sell out, to take people's property etc. Doesn't matter if it's true or not, the electorate will believe it. If the dems want to win they need to lose the haughtiness and a projecting an air of superiority that they know what's right for people and appeal to blue collar workers again. i.e. messaging needs to change. That might make people more receptive to left wing / progressive views. They also need to read the GOP playbook and create some divisive issues for the right to deal with. But expecting people to accept/embrace/own socialism is a joke. It won't happen. Think smart.

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

Harris was a full communist to the GOP.

I dont think it matters much.

[-] arc@lemm.ee 1 points 32 minutes ago

Harris lost. That's the point. If the dems want to win they need to learn from their mistakes, not give even more wedges to the right to scare away voters.

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 35 points 9 hours ago

I’ve been saying for about 5 years, maybe better, that she is the person I am most excited to vote for as president of the United States one day.

I don’t even have another name in mind.

I will be as happy to vote for her as I was for Sanders in the primaries, twice. I legit can’t wait.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

How about Jasmine Crockett? I hope between the two of them, they start inspiring and generating tons more to go into politics.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Hope Crockett gets to be gov of texas... She reminds me of Ann Richards in all the best ways. She'd make a great president too.

[-] Alaknar@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

Jasmine Crockett seems to be "AOC but sarcastic".

[-] ExPLiCiT@lemmy.world 23 points 9 hours ago

My concern is that now that Trump is in office and project 2025 is in full swing, that we will never see another fair election again.

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 hours ago

That's his obvious intention, yes.

There's still some things that can go wrong for the fascists, but we're certainly on a trajectory towards eternal leader supreme chancellor Trump.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 55 minutes ago

When he dies they're just gonna make him into an LLM. He already ignores all previous instructions so he's laid the groundwork

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 points 4 hours ago

The crimson lining is that we might get to build a new United States, free of the GOP and DNC. The problem is the nature of that crimson.

[-] PillowTalk420@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Who's the heel and when are they going to have a no-holds-barred cage match on PPV?

[-] notannpc@lemmy.world 79 points 12 hours ago

I promise you the Democratic Party will do whatever it takes to keep her away from leadership roles because she actually wants to change things.

That’s the one thing the Democratic Party is consistent on: rejecting progressives, even if it means letting the conservatives win.

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 62 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

We should be so lucky to have a party she represents in this country. The only reason she has that seat is by defying the DNC as a spoiler. They only elevate politicians to the Federal level on the basis of how good they've proven they are at collecting that sweet, sweet corpo bribe money.

The DNC and democratic leadership would rather dissappear her Than Trump by a mile.

The pendulum is the point. Both parties are well bribed to maintain the capitalist's murderous control. Good cop and bad cop are both just fine with mass homelessness and entire murder for profit confidence scheme market sectors. One laughs at you when the capitalists cause you harm, the other just shrugs and says "golly gee market forces nothing we can do! But I affirm your right to die horribly as who you are here in this cardboard box under a freeway! Pronouns are free so whatever I still get bribed 😁" (edit to be clear, respecting others identity is the right thing to do and basic decency, but there's a hierarchy of needs, self-actualization only matters if you have your basic needs met. You cannot live in an affirmation ribbon, you cannot eat a preferred pronoun, priorities.)

If the Democrats were led by someone talking about redistribution, that bribe gravy train would stop. If by some miracle AOC manages to steal the party out from under them as Trump did the RNC, the DNC would be fighting her every move and comment the way we wish they were countering Trump right now. In fact, here's how Democrat leadership spent the months leading to Trump's inauguration:

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/12/aoc-pelosi-oversight-committee-connolly-raskin

Defending the country from one of the only slightly left Reps in the entire federal government.

Democrats like Schumer and Pelosi are far closer to Trump than AOC.

https://apnews.com/article/business-nancy-pelosi-congress-8685e82eb6d6e5b42413417f3d5d6775

[-] carlossurf@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 hours ago
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[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 90 points 14 hours ago

Next to Bernie she's the best the Dems have to offer. And for any possible run for President, she beats Bernie on age.

If they run Harris again, or Newsom or some other conservative Democrat in 2028, the party is fucked.

[-] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 6 points 6 hours ago

You guys need more than just two relevant parties. AOC being this popular should prompt her to start her own movement, supported by Bernie, raher than clinging to the "Democrats".

[-] __dev@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

They need election reform for that to happen.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 45 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Newsom is trying his level best to have a right-of-center glow up right now. I'm almost certain that the DNC plans to tilt the scales for him. They likely will resist running a woman again for a long time because they've stupidly come to the conclusion that it was the genitalia of the candidates and not the quality of the candidate, campaign, and platform that caused them to lose what should have been two of the most winnable elections ever.

[-] solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 hours ago

Progressive woman of color

Or

Conservative white guy with (D) next to his name.

Pretty sure we can guess who will win the primary if they can help it. DNC leadership is not interested in what it's membership wants.

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[-] Master@lemm.ee 18 points 12 hours ago

Her as president and Bernie as vp. If they kill her then they put someone even more opposed to their views in power.

[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

As much as I absolutely adore Bernie, the guy needs a rest. He'd be starting as VP for a potential 8 year period of two terms at 86.....That means he'd be 94 by the time he left office. The man is an absolute beast, but father time catches up with us all and I don't want to see his final days in politics to be a sad decline after everything he's given. He deserves to serve as a badass senator, like he always has, until a progressive gets elected as president and then retire.

AOC and Pete Buttigeig as VP, on the other hand......or Tim Waltz again......or Elizabeth Warren for a double team, all woman ticket? Hell yeah.

[-] esltdoar@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

yeah, one of the reasons the dems are a dead/dying brand currently is because they keep putting in who they feel has earned it the most, not who the population actually likes. That also leads to entire party embarrassment when they fight for that person and they turn out to be an abysmal milquetoast failure like Biden.

[-] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

AOC - Crockett?

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