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[-] brian@lemmy.ca 111 points 2 months ago

While the original certainly has an actual style, i have to say that I have no fucking clue what I'm looking at with the trump face

[-] nao@sh.itjust.works 79 points 2 months ago

looks like he's trying to make plane noises

[-] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 58 points 2 months ago

They exaggerated Trump's characteristic pucker

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

An ugly as hell style (IMO), but a style nonetheless. The AI feels like a fastfood drawing.

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If the person holding Trump was a caricature of an Israeli many would have lost their minds and called it antisemitic. But when it is an Arab no one cares about antisemitism anymore.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

The AI image looks a bit less racist. Original author made the Arab head completely flat to insinuate they have no brains.

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[-] catnip@lemmy.zip 46 points 2 months ago

Im so confused about people saying they prefer the ai one. Just to double triple check that were all on the same page here, the ai one is the bottom one, right??

I think the bottom one is extremely boring and the top one looks sick af.

[-] answersplease77@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

I thought AI was the top one. I actually prefer the AI one in this case. in the first one the guy's face and nose is square and the the drawing is shitty. the second is clear and not distracting

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

God forbid an artist ever have style and good control of light. The AI one is plain boring, and has tons of shading errors. The original artists has a cool aesthetic, with lots of detail, vibrant colors and the facial expression looking at the viewer in smugness communicates a lot more than the AI one. So does the orange baby facial expression. It is all more lively and actually translates human emotion that says something about the situation. The AI one is basic and dull in comparison. So, anyways, media literacy…

[-] catnip@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago

Yesyesyesyesyes!

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

So you’re saying the first is stylized and the second is bland. We agree.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 13 points 2 months ago

The AI one is generic and easier to read. Some people like that 🤷‍♂️

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 42 points 2 months ago

WTF is happening to his face in the original?

[-] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 47 points 2 months ago

Pucker. Exaggerated.

[-] urandom@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

I think he's making airplane noises — maybe the artist wanted to show him as utterly oblivious, and enjoying being a plane

[-] orochi02@feddit.org 31 points 2 months ago

Might be an unpopular opinion but honestly the ai one isnt even that bad

[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
  1. It's a knock-off copy of an original idea
  2. The copy missed an important detail, clearly intended by the original artist: Trump's face. In the original artwork Trump is pictured as oblivious to the situation, making the plane noises, acting childish. In the statistical engine generated image, no such emotion is depicted.
  3. A few important details, actually. In the original the Qatari is looking straight at the "camera", in a kind of "see this?" way.
  4. Sloppy gen artifacts everywhere
[-] b34k@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

The Qatari looks dead and lifeless, staring into the distance in the AI one.

The real one he looks quite sinister, like he’s pulling the strings and he knows it. Part of that is, as you mentioned, his look into the camera, and another part is the lighting the artist chose, which is entirely absent in the AI image.

[-] orochi02@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago

For me I view it as 2 different styles entirely even though its a copy and when you see it that way I think the ai one just gets the message across (Like The Original) which is the most important for me personally. But yea your points are not invalid but the results Are still decent

[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

I'm sorry to tell you this, but your view is incorrect.

  1. It is not a "style". The statistical engine has no creative intent. You cannot have a style without intention. An absence of style is not a style.

  2. It clearly does not get the message across that was intended by the original artist, since it lacks key elements mentioned in my previous reply. It gets 'a message' across, but it's dumbed down and lacks subtlety, as the slop often does..

  3. I'm sure you clearly understood the message of the original artwork, and you didn't need the gen one to somehow explain it? If not, I have bad news for you...

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[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I think I prefer the AI one just because I don't understand what they are going for with Trump's face in the original. I assume he's supposed to look like something specific that I'm not understanding.

[-] Tenkard@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

I think he's supposed to be making vroom noises

[-] kablammy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Looks like his face was run over by a truck. I can't make out a face at all in the original.

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[-] CherryBullets@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

As an artist myself, I agree.

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[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Interesting. AI cannot make proper caricatures of people's faces apparently.

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[-] hungryphrog 20 points 2 months ago

Is it that hard to criticize Arab leaders for their politics without being racist about it?

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

How is the depiction racist? Th entire purpose is to represent a country/culture... If you think that basal appearances are being racist when it's literally a charicature, you're still too stuck in the land of Political Correctness. Stop being a PC thinker.

In fact, I think it's depicting specifically Saudi royalty, who often show up in public wearing traditional garb, exactly as depicted. So... the comic being accurate makes you call it ... racist? Learn some damn media literacy before it's too late...

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[-] bricklove@midwest.social 18 points 2 months ago

I'm seeing this shitty AI style with the thick lines everywhere. It triggers a deep rage in my lizard brain like Corporate Memphis does but it's much worse

[-] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

Is this meant to be a test of this sub or a joke? Second one actually knows how to draw a face. Wtf is going on in the top? Are these mislabeled?

[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A statistical engine "knows" nothing.
Just like you know nothing about caricatures.

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[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago

I can't tell which is more racist

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Point to the racism in the graphic?

[-] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Pretend this was a depiction of a Jew

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

Anti-Arab racism is so normalized that you got downvoted for pointing it out

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[-] peej@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Pretty sure his face is supposed to look like a bottle opener. It looked weird small on my phone but zooming in I think it's clear. The intent is to parallel the phrase "opening up the Middle East to America" while turning the roles on their heads, he is opening America to the Middle East.

This is an extremely simple use of visual metaphor and the AI predictably flunks hard by excreting something which pleases aesthetically but is spiritually and artistically barren.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

This is Lemmy trying to decide which racist picture they like better

LMAO then you guys later complain about racism hahahsj

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago

A copy of a racist image is still a copy, and still racist. I don't see the conflict.

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[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 months ago

Hm neither one looks particularly like Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, and the headdress style is Saudi Arabian in both.

[-] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Both are kind of racist as fuck right? Relying on anti-arabic stereotypes to try to inflame fear about this. The Qatari jet is a major problem but it's not because some sinister Arab is secretly pulling the strings, it's because foreign governments can buy influence.

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[-] andybytes@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago

Cheap lazy co-opting fucks.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

USA is racist AF with these kinds of cartoons being "normal".

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

Check the original artist. Not American.

[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago

Nicaraguan, but go off I guess

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago

How is it racist?

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