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[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 234 points 3 weeks ago

The former $240/mo was not outrageous to begin with?…

These Elon fanboys just love getting scammed by him. I can almost hear the little pay piggies squealing now.

[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 83 points 3 weeks ago

I looked into Starlink years ago when I was RVing. It came out to over $600 up front in equipment costs, THEN $240 a month or w/e. And it's not like Elon wasn't a piece of shit back then, either. $50 a month for T-Mobile "5G at home" with no upfront or hidden costs did the trick nicely and bridged the gap until I found a place with cheap fiber. Now I have 2.5Gbps up and down and it's still less than half the price of Starlink before this price hike.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago

It's worth it.

If you're in the middle of the Pacific often.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, but the 5000 people that applies to can't afford the entire network.

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[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

Starlink makes sense for the scenario it was designed fill the gap for. A lack of any other terrestrial options.

Legacy satellite has always been terrible, but the only option in many rural areas, and obviously the middle of nowhere. Starlink is an insanely reliable and decent deal in most of those circumstances. That's it's bread and butter.

But if you have literally any other option, it's usually not the best choice, it's not meant to be the best choice, it's intended for use where it's likely the only choice.

[-] Graphy@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

One of my brothers is in Alaska right now. It’s wild to me that he even gets internet where he’s at. Where he’s at they don’t even have mailboxes just PO Boxes.

He is sharing 1TB a month among ~60 people tho

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I know one guy where he's just on a damn mountain. Not many other options.

Not saying it's the option I'd take, just saying. If you're in the sticks in a red state...

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah there are always exceptions of course. I’ve seen some in that position able to get away with direct line-of-sight connections for a reasonable rate, but it depends heavily on the layout of the surrounding mountains and location of the service provider plus you have to shell out for an antennae or dish. For any wondering, that’s almost always cheaper than the Starlink sign up costs.

Then again, if internet is important to someone, gotta consider if mountain-side living is the right choice to begin with. I’m sure your acquaintance has his reasons though!

[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Like it or not, it's the only option for high speed internet for large swaths of the world. ViaSat is the only competitor and they're even worse: slower, unusably high latency and ridiculously low data caps.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I cant speak for other countries, but in the US, we are spending hundreds of dollars a month per household in these areas to the richest man in the world for shitty internet service instead of EITHER holding ISPs to the contracts they agreed to when municipalities gave then the right to build without competition from public services for which they were meant to supply high speed wired services to everyone, OR throw those contracts away and build reliable and profitable public services anyway and fuck the useless ISPs over. Instead we are just inviting in another ISP to fill the gap, this one also a racist fascist who is littering space with unregulated junk.

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[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 157 points 3 weeks ago

Damn, maybe you should move to a radical leftist city where fiber internet is $50 a month.

[-] sudoku@programming.dev 41 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] ECB@feddit.org 54 points 3 weeks ago

Romania probably.

They went hard on fiber investments a decade or two ago and now they have some of the world's best internet.

Last I checked you could get 10 Gbit for around 12€

[-] errer@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

Best place in the world to acquire porn: it’s made there (farm to table), and you can download it nigh instantly

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[-] kaosof@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

We pay 4.58€ for 1gbit/1gbit fiber in our condo association in Sweden...

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[-] x00z@lemmy.world 127 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I only have this to say: Fuck the sky pollution. Starlink has been ruining stargazing and star photography and Elon lied about its impact. He claimed they would be invisible with his amazing paint but they're still visible and fuck it up for people who enjoy watching the stars.

[-] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 55 points 3 weeks ago

I see them all the time without a camera. They are bright as the stars when they pass over.

[-] Rin@lemm.ee 32 points 3 weeks ago

pros and cons...

pros:

  • internet in remote places

cons:

  • at the cost of literallt everything else
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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 87 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ah, so this is why Elon wanted the rural broadband bill killed.

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[-] KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz 55 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Strange, I've downloaded almost 6TiB over the last month so far and my bill is still $120/mo.

EDIT: This appears to be for global priority customers (movable dish between addresses, on boats, etc) and seems to be because he's increasing his data cap by choice, not because rates are actually getting hiked. Us normal residential customers are the same as always. Fuck Musk anyway, but this one seems to be a non-issue.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

global priority customers (movable dish between addresses, on boats, etc)

Because of-fucking-course anybody who wants to buy and live aboard a cheap (easily $50k or less) old sailboat instead of paying rent forever or grinding for a $500K house is a "rich yacht owner" who can obviously afford $1000/month Internet. And have their home sunk by orcas while we're at it, because why not?

Just when I thought I had a viable plan to escape this shithole consumer trap of a country, the Internet service I would need to do it not only ends up being run by a goddamn Nazi, but they also jack up the price on that use-case.

[-] KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 weeks ago

Look into Eutelsat. I've heard mention recently that they're expanding as a viable starlink competitor. I have no direct knowledge, but maybe they'd cover your needs cheaper.

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[-] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 54 points 3 weeks ago

I thought starlink was just an alibi company to buy rocket launches from SpaceX, and make SpaceX appear profitable on paper?

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Starlink is owned by spaceX so they've never purchased a rocket, they just launch

And because of starlink SpaceX will be an insanely profitable company. Starlink is already bankrolling the very expensive starship development.

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[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Then what, are you going to tell us next that going to Mars also was? Come on! /s

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[-] ramsgrl909@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago

I live in a rural area. We were thinking about starlink a few years ago, then fiber came to our area. Thank goodness. We've literally had no issues, speeds are amazing, and no price hikes.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 27 points 3 weeks ago

Fibre is racist and woke, that's what tramp said at least.

[-] NetworkMachineBroke@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

Given his steady diet of hamberders, I'm sure he does think fiber is woke

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[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 35 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, now it's worse than every satellite internet company I know. Shame I recommended it to someone because I thought it would be reliable and remain cheap.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

Amazon is launching a competing service on its own satelites.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe they'll collide with each other.

[-] JohnSwanFromTheLough@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Probably, and well be forever imprisoned on the planet in that scenario because we won't be able to launch anything for a long long time again.

Kessler Syndrome

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ooh, I love rushing towards Kessler Syndrome.

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 weeks ago

I am unsurprised. I thought it would take longer for it to become outrageously priced, but here we are. this specific pricing is extra crazy IMO.

In any case, I scoffed at the pricing when it was almost reasonable during their trial phases.... Back then IIRC it was like $100-150 usd/mo. or something.... That's too much for me already. Seems like they've previously increased it to around $200-300 and now they've lost their damn minds.

Star link was never economically sensible, price hikes were inevitable. There's just too few people in their target audience and too many satellites that are simply too costly to maintain at the levels they previously had. I hoped, for the sake of anyone who required starlink for a reasonable Internet connection speed, that the business plans and corporate users would shoulder most of the cost, but here we are.

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[-] arc@lemm.ee 25 points 3 weeks ago

I wouldn't use this service unless I literally had no other option. But sadly "no other option" is why they are able to jack up the prices and change the terms and conditions as they feel like with impunity.

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[-] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

Slide to switch plan

Ooooh, that's cutesy.

How about "Point a firearm at the screen and scowl menacingly to cancel the service"

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[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 19 points 3 weeks ago

He sees you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake....

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

🎼 He sees you when you're pooping.

He knows when you're online...

He knows when you've been fash or woke

So be fash for tesla's sake 🎶

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm one of those people for who Starlink very much is the only option. I moved from Northern Virginia to Western Maryland. This land used to be state park and all it has is electricity and mail delivery. No water, no sewage, no telephone, no internet other than cell hotspot or Starlink. It sucks but I have to try and separate my distaste for Musk with the engineers and people who actually run Starlink day to day, because at the end of the day the service is pretty damn good. The only issue I have (besides the price) is with VoIP traffic; but SIP acts fucky even with Cat5/6 sometimes so idk. I looked up the current policy and at least in the US they do not have a soft data cap. They did when the service initially launched AFAIK but that's been replaced with a more general "network management" policy (throttling, etc) . https://www.starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1470-99699-90?regionCode=US

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Just gonna let you know, if ya have 5g available more specifically T-Mobile then ya can get an at home 5g router. It is most definitely cheaper and may have lower latency, though I don't know how their network is on the East coast furthest east I've gone is Utah.

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