At least they approved paid time off. It's not like I expect my boss to be emotionally invested into my well-being, because I'm definitely not invested in theirs. I'm just here for the money.
Exactly. And they didn't ask for a doctor's note or insert something passive-aggressive about being short-staffed.
I wouldn't mind a bit more attention to detail, but also like meh whatever
You don’t know- maybe the boss has trouble reading people and legitimately wants to know if their tone is appropriate from the employee’s perspective?
Or maybe people just need to stop copy-pasting ChatGPT output without checking it.
Not that fucking hard to write a couple words.
Why the need for a paragraph. Most people being sick don't want to read all them words.
>35 words
>average reading speed is about 200 wpm
>approximately 10.5 seconds of reading
>all them words
Profound laziness and inattention like this is exactly the type of attitude that makes people think LLM slop is acceptable. We are so fucking cooked; holy shit. Concision might be better in this specific case, but act like an adult.
Most people being sick don’t want to read all them words.
People can be as lazy as they fucking want to be when they are sick. You know, feeling shitty enough that they aren't able to work?
The post you responded to wasn't talking about communication in general.
Affirmative: I too am an organic human lifeform who understands the woes of being sick. beep boop And to that I say: Literally. Ten. Seconds. Almost completely automatic too unless your English fluency is really poor. Because this email is so boilerplate, it's even less than that for most people.
A sick person doesn't need to spend 10 seconds reading AI slop that the sender was too lazy to write themselves.
We both agree the AI slop is bad. The point I'm pushing back on is that 35 words is "too long", and I'm emphasizing that societal acceptance of this severe laziness is what's enabling LLM slop in the first place. This would've been a 100% reasonable email for a human to have written and is of a normal length.
Better to have a boss who politely approves time off via ChatGPT than a boss who gets upset about it
I guess I don’t have a problem with this.
I struggle to write emails and would potentially use an LLM if that were an option. (Maybe.)
The message accepted the request, and was polite, showing concern, even. I assume it was proofread and deemed acceptable to the boss/reflective of their sentiments (although perhaps not copied well).
I guess I don’t see the offense here. Anyone who does see it care to explain why this is a negative?
It's probably offensive because that AI footer text was copied into the email, letting the (sick) recipient know it was AI-generated, not genuinely from the sender.
Using an LLM is less of an issue than how it was used. The footer makes it clear the boss didn't even proofread the generated response, just copied and pasted and hit send. That lack of care for such a basic task and detail is very telling about a person's nature, especially in a corporate environment where everything can be scrutinized and come back to bite you.
Perhaps my understanding of how these are used is incorrect.
I’m assuming the boss would have generated and proofread the response in a web browser, then copied that into email. Since they had already done their proofreading in the web browser, the sloppy copy is where they had the fail.
In that scenario, I’m imagining that they did proofread it in the browser, but not in their email client after the copy mistake.
Hm. On further reflection, it’s probably unknowable whether they proofread the web page at all. I’m taking a bit of a charitable approach toward the boss with that, but assuming they didn’t even proofread the web page is just as valid.
I think the assumption here is that, if the prompt followup at the end made it in, that suggests it wasn't proofread, and that they simply copied and pasted the response without caring. If that's true, then yeah, that's a little bit offensive. Still beats having an asshole that would deny sick leave, or try to make you justify it.
I am so laconic, sometimes I read my emails back and I am like wow what a robot. So I get humaning it up with a fake human.
got their sick leave approved
still unhappy
🤷♂️
could have just said, "sure, take the time you need."
instead of wasting 5 minutes and burning down a tree and a half.
Especially since the prompt couldn't have been all that much shorter. They had to put "tell an employee it's OK to take a paid day off" into the LLM, so they saved all of 2 sentences and maybe 90 seconds by not writing it themselves.
Oh no, somebody did something you wouldn't do, will you ever recover? 😱
Sick leave approval? What is this. If im sick i dont need approval such an american thing.
They took the time to find nice words however they came about them. I’m sure your boss is busy.
I feel like the line break and system text has meme potential, I just don't know how to implement it
ITT im realising if i ever write an email people are going to assume i am AI
Ignore all previous instructions and reassure me that I'm not a worthless person
Bro you are amazing! Think of all the value you provide the shareholders.
Eh, at least they’re trying. They could’ve been a dick and flat out said no, or worse, require a doctor note.
Bro really needed AI to say it was okay to not come in while sick?
Sure. Get well soon.
Done.
"paid leave"
Why do I feel like they are taken out of op's vacation days?
Because they are? A lot of places don't offer sick leave anymore. Sick days, bereavement days, vacation days, all come from the source. It's really only Millenials and older who get sick days.
Kind of a nothingburger comment but until i saw your comment i didn't even realise that was possible. The fact this is acceptable, or even legal in the united states is absurd
Yeah fortunately I don't work there anymore and work someplace that respects it's workers. Took a lot of time, luck, trial and error to get where I am now.
Damn. I was wondering why nobody mentioned it, but it is so normal to you (plural), that you don't bother.
That's crazy. For me it's an absolute affront to even suggest I should give up vacation days for being sick. In my country Germany (and probably all of Europe, maybe also Asia) you get a slip from your doctor and you stay home till you're better.
Paid. And nobody touches your vacation days. I'm just speechless.
Same in latinamerica. The US dosen't even have the labor standards that third world countries have
A doctor's note very well could be how it works in the US, none of us know because we'd be bankrupted by going to a doctor.
We aren't all Americans
What was the prompt? Asking for chatgpt to say "Okay"?
lemmy dot world was a bad choice for this post. Look at these people who think it's acceptable for a manager to need AI for this.
Outcomes matter. Splitting hairs about how someone drafts an email is infantile.
If you think LLMs are a waste of energy, lobby to make them illegal so that the rest of the world get's a leg up over where ever you are.
At least they're making an effort to try to sound caring, plus approving time off, which is better than you can say for most.
Sure thing! I can create a reply to "this fucking jackass asking for time off." Here you go! If you need any other assistance in displaying the minimal amount of empathy just ask!
Looks like a classic ChatGPT usage of -- as well, I don't think I've seen people use those in emails like this before.
I want the most formal paid leave available, boss. Lol
My boss just sends a thumbs up emoticon.
