Yeah it's definitely the bots and not the fashy admins that drove me away from reddit.
I mean the bots don't help. The sheer number of obviously AI subreddits and response farms is crazy. There's like 6 prominent "Am I the Assholes", a bunch of text message "screenshot" subreddits which have always been easy to fake, and a bunch of "explain the joke" ones too. I stop reading halfway through most text posts and comments because it's obviously AI
the number of the explain the joke threads on the all page is ridiculous.
I made a lemmy post about it but I theorize they're crowdsourced AI training. Post something, post a couple of separate AI interpretations of it, then analyze the highest up voted AI and "organic" responses, and feed that back into the model. Rinse/repeat
That's fair, it just seems like that if they're going down the list of problems looking for things they can do to make reddit a better place, it doesn't make sense to not start at the top.
"Better for who?" is the question you need to ask yourself, because it's absolutely not the users anymore.
Yep, entirely fair. S'why I left.
I got banned from reddit for a few days once because I posted something similar. Was told I was threatening violence. Lol
Like a war on terrorism, that then fights domestic terrorists, that then protects Tesla; any new power will inevitably be abused. Snowden taught us that a long time ago.
Violence for the sake of violence is not the same as violence to stop violence. Everyone knows killing an abusive parent is morally grey whereas killing an innocent child is absolutely wrong.
I recently got a comment removed on the Fed because a mod misunderstood my comment. They thought that someone who maliciously harms the innocent is themselves innocent, therefore invalidating my ideal. My bet is they didn't know what malice means, or they genuinely think that hurting people with no provocation doesn't make you a bad person.
Por que, no los dos?
I mean it's definitely both, but the fashy admins were the last straw.
What and destroy 90% of their traffic?!?
“That’s a bold move, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off for ’em.”
AI bots.
Not the rest of them.
Yeah the manual bots are ok (humans?) I guess
This has nothing to do with bots. Verification comes with more info provided on your part, which they will sell.
I got ecchi dolls (China knockoff, cheaper but decent) from a site called OtakuCrate once, they've emailed me to confirm that the R18 loot is back under new US regulations, which means future orders just require your legal identification. I live in Europe, so there's no damn way I'm conforming to any privacy-invasive law, and I'm also not stupid.
It can be both. Reddit has a history of fabricating conversations. The way they sell advertising implies a certain level of engagement from their user base which can lead to bots pushing products in the form of reviews or by mention.
I think it's worth noting that Reddit, at one time, did have third party bot protection; however, it only protected their advertising. I can only imagine what the rest of their traffic looks like, but I would not be surprised if they were using bots of their own.
Like you said, they can make some money selling your information but they can also control the narrative how they choose.
Lol, they're the ones using the bots to fake engagement in the first place.
I Think Thies weil continue to work. Only foreign bots are exkulpiert.
Hah, yeah. One could say it's a form of digital nepotism.
"Only our bots get go work here!"
Like "closing the gate after the sheep already escaped", but in reverse?
like: Closed the gate after the wolf got in?
Unauthorized AI bots
what about their own Ai bots lmao?
I don't believe that for 1 millisecond.
Spez won't be able to stop himself from enshitifying reddit in any way he can to appease those VC pump&dump scammers he's spent the last decade ruining reddit for.
Oh no! Anyway
Fuck reddit, It's a shithole.
Sometimes I have to return for various reasons. God. Some of them have absolutely bled over to the fediverse, but holy HELL are the people and the culture there messed up. I don't know if it's getting worse or I'm healing.
Personally I feel like I am healing. I haven't signed into reddit since they bent the knee to musk. I have noticed that I have become less toxic. I still go off half cocked like an idiot but I have been more tactful about it. I hope to keep working on it because I honestly never noticed until I had been away from reddit for a few weeks.
What's the difference between Reddit and Lemmy culturally? I thought that the people who moved over here held opinions fairly typical of Reddit.
Hmm... Reddit users tend to be less thoughtful and more ready to play to the crowd, as opposed to a more personal approach on lemmy/fediverse. It's an important distinction, that lemmy is based on the idea of being nice to people. By doing so, I hope to, and have seen, far less one-liners and dismissive jokes. It's less toxic imo. It's not perfect, but we have to work in steps, together as a society in order to get to enlightenment like that. And lemmy is a decent step away from what Reddit culture has become.
Also, I think lemmy people are a bit less selfish and more socialist as an average, which probably contributes. I think it helps to go, "capitalism bad, let me actually try to take a step away from that and try to do (at least technologically) something that's better." Personally, I'm not a communist or pure socialist, but I'm definitely not gruntled by any means with our current socioeconomic systems. I've talked to some tankie friends irl and not only do we disagree a on some things, but one person believed that what I want doesn't exist/isn't a known societal structure, which is fine to me, that just means we haven't tried it yet.
While I completely agree with you about the absence of one-liners and meme comments, and even more left leaning community, there's still that strong element of "gotcha" in discussions. Also tonnes of people not reading an article before commenting (at a better rate than Reddit probably), and a generally even more doomer attitude is common here.
Don’t think they’re doing this out of the goodness of the hearts, they’re just trying to avoid the “shit in, shit out” affect of their data sample.
"Drink verification can to continue"
Reddit: User content belongs to us. You can't scrape, collect, use, or have bots interact with it... unless you pay us.
They’re doing this to better identify you
I always get 'Blocked by Network security' for trying to access Reddit from a VPN
If only they accepted the reality of massive residential proxy networks..
A shitton of apps not only sell your data but also use your device as a tunnel.
the users that posts links,a re using rotating mobile proxies, plus other sophisticated methods to hide thier browsers.
Suuuurrrre they will...
No they wont. Just those who haven't paid them first.
What, like Xitter did?
It's already happening, I see I opened accounts but none of my comment gets posted with accounts I don't know why , this is with new accounts
Same happened to me, all my old accounts which I had for years got banned for no reason and new accounts gets banned as soon as I comment.
sounds like you got shadowbanned, you can check your username, by not logging in and click your profile.
it usually says "cannot find profile" on a browser, which means shadowbanned.
That's a shadowban
Bots are all “f spez, I’m switching to lemmy!” Ever relatable, they are!
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