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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) by lwadmin@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

Hello world,

as many of you probably already know, Lemmy is an open source project and its development is funded by donations.

Unfortunately, as is often the case, donations amounts are often going down over time if people are not aware of their necessity. When older users leave the platform they may stop donating, while new users joining will typically not be aware of this and won't start donating to even things out or even go towards an overall increase in donations.

All of the services provided by our non-profit Fedihosting Foundation are dependent on the development of FOSS platforms, which we can host without paying any licensing or other fees, instead only being required to pay for the infrastructure cost. We are currently investing a small part (€50 each) of the donations we receive in development of Lemmy and Mastodon, but the majority of the donations we receive are used for covering infrastructure costs. We're currently just about breaking even with the donations we receive, but it's certainly not enough to cover a large part of Lemmy or other software development costs.

We're looking to support sustainable software development for all the services we provide and will post similar announcements on our other platforms to promote donations towards the respective development teams in the coming days.

You can find the original announcement by @nutomic@lemmy.ml below:

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/29579005

An open source project the size of Lemmy needs constant work to manage the project, implement new features and fix bugs. Dessalines and I work full-time on these tasks and more. As there is no advertising or tracking, all of our work is funded through donations. Unfortunately the amount of donations has decreased to only 2000€ per month. This leaves only 1000€ per developer, which is not enough to pay my bills. With the current level of donations I will be forced to find another job, and drastically reduce my contributions to Lemmy. To avoid this outcome and keep Lemmy growing, I ask you to please make a recurring donation:

Liberapay | Ko-fi | Patreon | OpenCollective | Crypto

If you want more information before donating, consider the comparison with Reddit. It began as startup funded by rich investors. The site is managed by corporate executives who over time have become more and more disconnected from normal users. Their main goal is to make investors happy and to make a profit. This leads to user-hostile decisions like firing the employee responsible for AMAs, blocking third-party apps and more. As Reddit is a single website under a single authority, it means all users need to follow the same rules, including ridiculous ones like censoring the name "Luigi".

Lemmy represents a new type of social media which is the complete opposite of Reddit. It is split across many different websites, each with its own rules, and managed by normal people who actually care about the users. There is no company and no profit motive. Much of the work is carried out by volunteer admins, mods and posters, who contribute out of enthusiasm and not for money. For users this is great as there is no advertising nor tracking, and no chance of takeover by a billionaire. Additionally there are no builtin political or ideological restrictions. You can use the software for any purpose you like, add your own restrictions or scrutinize its inner workings. Lemmy truly belongs to everyone.

Dessalines and I work fulltime on Lemmy to keep up with all the feature requests, bug reports and development work. Even so there is barely enough time in the day, and no time for a second job. Previously I sometimes had to rely on my personal savings to keep developing Lemmy for you, but that can't go on forever. We partly rely on NLnet for funding, but they only pay for development of new features, and not for mandatory maintenance work. The only available option are user donations. To keep it viable donations need to reach a minimum of 5000€ per month, resulting in a modest salary of 2500€ per developer. If that goal is reached Dessalines and I can stop worrying about money, and fully focus on improving the software for the benefit of all users and instances. Please use the link below to see current donation stats and make your contribution! We especially rely on recurring donations to secure the long-term development and make Lemmy the best it can be.

Donate


edit, as this was frequently brought up:

Will donations to Lemmy development go towards the operation of lemmy.ml?

It depends on the donation method used and is limited to around 2% of the minimum overall donation goal. The vast majority of donations is exclusively used for developer salaries.

lemmy.ml hosting is only financed by donations via Opencollective. All other donations go exclusively to developer salaries.

[source]

For donations via Open Collective, yes, a tiny fraction of donations towards Lemmy development will go towards the operation of lemmy.ml. The reasons for this include that lemmy.ml is used for testing new releases and also that it's not worth maintaining a separate donation account for the instance. Additionally, it should be noted that the money going towards lemmy.ml hosting is just a tiny fraction of the funds that are being asked for. Hosting lemmy.ml costs around €100/month, which is only 2% of the stated minimum donation goal.

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[-] ArtificialHoldings@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

Comments are a hilarious minefield and a painful reminder of exactly how online leftists can never get shit done. We want FOSS defederated social media platforms to escape the tech giants that would happily facilitate a fascist wave if it meant they can serve more targeted ads. But when that platform actually exists in a totally functional and apolitical way, we don't want to support its development because the people willing to work full time on the project for poverty wages have bad political opinions. It's so bad that we'd rather support Steve Huffman's bot farm which is 1,000 times as politically influential as Lemmy will ever be at this rate.

[-] yogurt@lemm.ee 2 points 42 minutes ago

If half the people circlejerking in here were serious they could pay a liberal developer to contribute instead, but somehow I doubt that's happening.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

ITT: anticommunism.

[-] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 22 points 5 hours ago

I was thinking long and hard about this to form an opinion, but my answer is no.

The final decission point was: I'm from Slovakia, it's no secret that Russia would love to take us under their sphere of influence. You and your instance is not only supporting this, you're actively propagating this. In fact, I'm pretty sure if Russian soldiers would be at my doorstep, threatening my family, you and your instance would be cheering. And when I would realize, that I actively supported this, that would break me.

If you're about to publish your work for free, I gladly use it as long as it's run by good people like lemmy.world. This way you get no support from me. If I'd pay you, I don't know what part of my support would end up in .ml instance which I see as a propaganda machine against countries like mine. And even if you say that none of my money would end up there, I kind of don't want to support you as a human being. I won't pay your salary so you have energy to do what you do on .ml instance.

If Lemmy as a project dies, so be it. Foss world can always spark successful forks (see OpenElec vs LibreElec) and alternatives like PieFed already exist

[-] farcaster@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago

Not while the devs run a pro-genocide echo chamber. Tankie punks fuck off.

[-] 4n41y4no5@crazypeople.online 5 points 6 hours ago

Exactly. These people at lemmy.world supported sending tanks to gaza, and now they reveal their disguisting faces by saying things like "Palestinians deserved it" .

Tankie scumz

[-] farcaster@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago

The genocide of Gazan civilians is indeed horrible, just like the genocide of Ukrainian civilians. Both make me feel sick. However, only one of these observations is allowed to be uttered on tankie instances. And no, I don't see the same amount of an intense echo chamber across the entire .world instance.

[-] 4n41y4no5@crazypeople.online 3 points 4 hours ago
[-] farcaster@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

And it was easy to say from the beginning that supporting Putin, an authoritarian old school imperialist land-grabbing mass-murdering and human-rights violating dictator was morally repulsive. Yet here we are.

[-] orangeboats@lemmy.world 30 points 7 hours ago

ITT: a mighty showcase of the divide-and-conquer strategy by psyops.

Instead of realizing that our goal as an alternative community to Reddit is first and foremost to... well duh, to build a community and keep it thriving, people here are infighting, preferring to subdivide themselves into tankies and non-tankies.

If Lemmy eventually fails and no other project with a similar feature-set can show up in time, we end up killing the existing momentum.

If that happens, all of you shall remember this very moment, and bravo to the psyops people (be it from the government or corporate) because you won yet again.

Donated. Though because I am living in a third world country it's just a measly ~25 dollars.

[-] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

thats basically my opinion. I'm not a fan of tankies or .ml, but love lemmy, happy to have a reoccuring donation to help

[-] Imhotep@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

In the same week - according to Internet super minds - I've been paid by Sandfall Interactive to promote Expedition 33 AND by the government to hinder Lemmy's implacable expansion.

It was a good week.

[-] orangeboats@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

That's the kicker -- you are not even being paid when you are contributing to their cause.

[-] Imhotep@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

I hereby proclaim you're a russian agent paid to promote tankie ideas, which is why you are wrong in whatever you say.

Shit, why haven't I used this before. No need to debate, very handy.

[-] orangeboats@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Just saying that I am not the one claiming everyone (that I dislike) is an [insert any country/organization here] agent ;) But people can be misguided into supporting something that is ultimately detrimental to them -- see also Trump supporters.

[-] Imhotep@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, I got the condescension the first time. Although to wrap it up with a comparison to trump supporters was a nice touch.

It's such an underhanded insult I'm not even mad. Have a good one.

Dumdum out.

[-] orangeboats@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Huh?

I am thinking there are some language or cultural barriers here, because the last comment wasn't me trying to insult you. It's a direct refutation of your remark about russian agent, and the comparison was meant to complement the earlier statement (that people can unknowingly support something detrimental).

[-] Imhotep@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

refutation? No, I was joking. You're the one talking about psyops, governements and corporations

You can't just explain to people their feeble minds are being manipulated. Like trump supporters...

Do you see how condescending it is? That the only reason we're against the nauseating ideology that is tankism is because we don't know any better.

Try to give people some credit. I've had an account on lemmy.ml long before .world even existed and had time to make an informed opinion about tankies

Come up with arguments, and don't rely on character assassination and conspiracy theories.

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