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[-] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 119 points 1 week ago

Linux comes in a million flavors but most people should start with Mint. That sounds like a pun, but it's also true.

Mint is a nice, safe, up-to-date, simple, Windows-like choice that won't unnecessarily complicate the transition to an entirely different operating system. It has good hardware support and good defaults. Most things will feel very familiar and be very accessible. It is popular enough to find plenty of help on the internet and answers to almost every question you could have. It mostly just works and when it doesn't it's usually not a deal-breaker.

It's not my favourite distro, but you aren't ready for my favourite distro. Honestly I'm barely ready for my favourite distro. It's not elitism, it's just practicality. You'll learn as you go, and you'll eventually want to try other distros, but start with Mint, and keep a Mint system around for when you break everything else. Which you will if you start playing with other distros.

[-] illi@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago

I use Mint and I support this message.

[-] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 week ago

it’s just practicality.

I have "enough" years under my belt with Linux and I still prefer Mint on majority of my "daily driver" type machines. I already spend my working hours messing around with all kinds of different systems, figuring out problems, installing new ones and so on and I'm old enough that tweaking system just for the sake of it isn't really what I'm after anymore. I just want something which doesn't crap the bed, stays out of the way and lets me run whatever software I happen to need. At least for me Mint checks most of the boxes and the ones it lacks it's pretty trivial to beat it back into submission.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago

Tried to install Mint on my laptop, wouldn't work. Googled the issue, had to rename a file in the boot directory for some reason.

Tried again, wouldn't work. Googled issue, had to turn off secure boot in bios.

Tried again, installed, okay now we're cooking. Connected to WiFi, updated packages and drivers. All good, reboot. Install Steam. Login via QR code, it begins loading user data.

Loading... Loading.. Loading.. Okay it's clearly stuck. How do I kill a process on Linux? Google it, okay that's not too hard. Try launching Steam again, same thing. Google this issue, get a lot of different potential causes, involving delving into some obscure directories.

I consider myself technologically competent, more so than the average person/consumer. I am a lot of people in my social sphere's "computer guy". Way more than most people are not going to figure this stuff out for themselves.

I'm really sorry to say but Linux is still not ready for mainstream consumers and users if this is the experience of the most recommended stable distro for the average person.

[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago

Linux is still not ready for mainstream consumers

Jorge Castro of Universal Blue likes to say that the average person doesn't install operating systems, and I fully agree with him.

People rock what comes installed on their computer. Anyone who installs an OS them self is not an average user.

I think we'll see the average user start to choose Linux as more and more manufacturers ditch the Windows tax and ship computers with Linux.

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[-] Global_Liberty@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

I had the same issue with the secure boot in bios when I switched a computer to Linux Mint a few weeks ago, but it's been smooth other than that.

[-] Lightsong@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I agree with you, I'm in similar situation and yet people here will screech at you for saying stuff like that. Don't mind them.

[-] Broken@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago

Absolutely this. I like mint because I no longer like fiddle farting around with my PC. It just works out of the box. An overlooked bonus is when I need to learn how to do something the Mint forums usually have the answer, and its catered to Mint defaults. It's not the end of the world, but when answers match your file explorer, text editor, system editor etc..it just makes it easier. Compared to finding answers elsewhere that are for Debian and then having to wonder if it'll work or not based on the family lineage of the OS is just unnecessary for most people.

[-] elvith@feddit.org 25 points 1 week ago

As I said over and over again: my biggest pet peeve with Linux is that there are often several ways to accomplish something but many are somewhat distribution specific and not really standardized.

Who doesn't love to find a tool that has install instructions like:

Start by installing all required packages with sudo apt get package1, package2,... then clone this repository and...

Just to realize that a) you're not running anything Debian based and b) you first step is now to find out how these packages are named in your package manager.

Or tutorials that tell you to do X and you only find out, that they're assuming (but not telling you) you're using Debian and some old package versions that now have a completely new syntax in their configuration, so that either the tutorial doesn't work or you maybe even f up something by changing values that you shouldn't touch.

Best is, of you find help in a distribution specific forum/wiki/... But not all problems can be found there

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

Specifically Mint Cinnamon. It has a UI that is very similar to what people are used to in the Windows world.

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

I honestly couldn't agree more. From 2011 to about 2017, I was always distro hopping, trying out different things. And then for the longest time, I just stayed with Ubuntu. And now I'm like, you know what? I'm just gonna fucking use Linux Mint, because it just fucking works.

[-] kittenzrulz123 6 points 1 week ago

Its absolutely ugly and has a very non modern interface, anyone who tries it as their first OS will probrally be convinced Linux is stuck in 2005. Tbh Fedora should be considered the default these days.

[-] octobob@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago

What even is this comment lol

Fedora is a distro, not a desktop environment. Your desktop environment is going to dramatically change your look and feel of your OS.

I don't know how anyone can say windows 11 with all its ads and basically the same UI as windows XP from 2000 "looks better" than something like hyprland, i3, KDE, or gnome.

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[-] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

Windows interface is also stuck in 2005, and the evidence suggests most people prefer that. Many people claim they want modern interfaces, but then people get literally angry whenever Microsoft tries to update it and almost nobody ever uses any of the "modern" features they add. Mint is a perfectly fine choice for most people, who are perfectly happy to be stuck in 2005.

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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

I finally switched to Linux for my daily driver and gaming PC. It was easy.

[-] poopkins@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

So honestly, which percentage of your game collection runs on Linux? Because I've looked into doing this just a few months ago, and unless the industry had some kind of mass exodus, less than 10% of my games run on Linux, and that's a generous estimate.

Not defending Windows or anything, this is just my experience.

[-] rapchee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

idk where you looked, protondb.com is a good database for this stuff, from your later reply insurgency sandstorm and hund showdown are both "gold" rated, they should be okay
but the thing is ... you could just try for yourself, for free

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[-] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

At this point it's pretty much only the competitive games with kernel level anti-cheat that don't work on Linux because of their kernel level anti-cheat.

But then again, if 90% of the games you play are competitive games that require kernel level anti-cheat, you should probably consider expanding your gaming experience lol

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Multiplayer games and ones that require Uplay or Origin (can't remember their new names) have issues, but most single player stuff will run fine. You'll typically have to run them via Wine or Proton, but Steam will handle that for you.

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[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 5 points 1 week ago

Would "Steam Deck compatibility" be a good proxy, at least for Steam games?

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[-] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I'm on Garuda, every game I have tried has worked great, sometimes I just have to choose a different proton version with an easy pull down menu. The only game I have given up is Destiny 2, because they say they will ban anyone on Linux because of their anti cheat.

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[-] User79185@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 week ago

MS is for a rude awakening when general populace will not update their hardware with record inflation.

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago

People will just keep using insecure windows 10 versions.

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[-] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago

I think you would enjoy the adventure of learning the Linux.

[-] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

Its boring. You open a web browser or Steam, you do a thing, you go to sleep.

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[-] trashboat@midwest.social 11 points 1 week ago

Again… So much proprietary software is the industry standard, particularly Adobe, and much of it is Linux-compatible, making it not so easy to make the switch as a freelancer

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[-] addiks@feddit.org 22 points 1 week ago

I just want to continue using my HP Reverb G2, which will be bricked for absolutely no reason due to the deprecation of the Windows Mixed Reality Portal with the end of Windows 10. :-(

[-] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

There are ways to disable Windows updates. This is what I have done to allow me to keep using my reverb G2. Of course I don't use my windows PC as my daily so I keep it air gapped for security

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[-] randombullet@programming.dev 19 points 1 week ago

If you absolutely must use windows

Download the Pro ISO from windows.

Use MicroWin to create an iso without tpm requirements and with offline installation

Use MAS and use only the Enterprise edition. You might need to upgrade to Professional first.

Then use WindowsDebloater to tailor it to your liking.

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[-] Lightsong@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

I ran Microsoft Activation Scripts (MAS) on my PC, making it W10 IoT Enterprise and then ran Sophia script from GitHub to debloat my Windows. It's pretty sweet, works for me so far.

[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 week ago

well, i did buy a new computer. But for linux

[-] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

::laughs in kde::

[-] ghostfish@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

Imagine all the people, using their PC's.

[-] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

No Dell below us, above us only Pi

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[-] bfg9k@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

What's MS's plan after this? Everyone I know that uses Windows/M365 hate it more with every passing day and is looking to leave.

I really don't want to be in tech support in 2029 when they kill off old outlook. There will be blood on that day.

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[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago

If my computer could run faster it would catch up with my refrigerator.

[-] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

I love Linux, but my older system has an older Nvidia graphics card in it and I lost 15-20 FPS when I switch to Linux.

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[-] Chivera@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Is Windows Enterprise LTSC a good idea?

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[-] JoeDyrt@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I DID buy a new computer; MacBook!

[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 7 points 1 week ago

Congratulations on the downgrade. You've gone from an OS that will support your hardware from at least 10 years, to maybe 7 years of support.

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