Bazzite has a very simple process for installing software that isn't on Flatpak: You spin up a virtual machine running a better distro and install it there
So I realize this is a meme community but why not, its on topic:
... How is one supposed to install say, I2P, I2PD ... on Bazzite?
I have tried the flatpak but it doesn't work properly because it only installs at the user level via the app store/flatpak... not the system level.
I have tried to figure out how to set it up in a distro box and am apparently too stupid to figure this out.
I am also apparently too stupid to figure out which of the like 8 different kinds of ports I2P uses for one thing or another... I actually need to forward in my router.
help plz
Yes, I have read the wiki.
As I said, flatpak no worky because you don't have a system level install option.
Flatseal might help, but I do not know what I'd have to custom configure.
Ujust has no helper commands for i2p.
Homebrew might help for setting up the daemon, but i wouldn't know how to connect it properly to a firefox or librewolf container tab, within bazzite.
... Quadlet.
Ok. This didn't exist the last time I looked at the wiki a couple months ago, goddamnit.
I2P does have a docker set up guide... this might actually work, if it can direcrtly fuck with bazzite's systemctl.
That being said: I have never use cli docker before so... wheee!
Uh other than that:
Distrobox is basically a very fancy docker container... maybe if I set up a whole distro, with I2P, and its own version of ffox, lwolf... that would work?
...afaik there is no official i2p appimage, and even if there was, its containerized, same problem as a flatpak.
... and finally, rpm ostree, the big no no... yeah, there is no official .rpm for i2p.
... I... guess... i could set up vanilla fedora... in distrobox... and try to compile it from source... and then... either install that rpm in the fedora-distrobox... or... bazzite itself?
... its mid night, im going to bed rofl.
'Car' should have been painted over with white instead of black. The other text already has a white outline. This is hard to read.
They're on Bazzite so maybe they only had black installed
Bazzite has a very simple process for installing software that isn’t on Flatpak: You spin up a virtual machine running a better distro and install it there
Seems like someone didn't bother reading any of the documentation... There are like 4 alternative ways to do it, including using apt (in a distrobox).
Me 10 years ago after deciding to go into the deepend a bit to learn Linux and installing Slackware.
It would be DNF in this case
yt-dlp AND btop isnt on the default app store on Bazzite. Im sure theres a way to get them installed, but it was rather annoying playing my game, watching a video on the side, finding a video that looks worth keeping, and i cant download it
yt-dlp works just fine for me on bazzite. I think I just use the app image? I even made an alias for it in my bashrc file so I only need to type "yt".
Some other tips: play around with BoxBuddy (distrobox) for a bit if you haven't yet.
You can use apt if you want, just create a Debian distrobox. BoxBuddy allows you to easily create shortcuts to apps installed in distroboxes to run them directly on your host system. So once you create it you never have to mess with the box again if you don't want to.
I came from EndeavourOS, so I just made an Arch distrobox that I can use to get packages from the AUR.
"ujust update" (or the bazzite system updater thing) command will update all of your distrobox images (and any apps installed on them) as part of the process. And if you mess something up, or decide you don't want it, you just delete the distrobox.
It's actually pretty easy, and I think it's cool that your distro doesn't really matter anymore.
Ive only played with Bazzite for 2 days now. (Got a 2nd hand keayboard last year August. Finally changed the RGB with Bazzite and its OpenRPG tool). If you can set up Desktop mode as the default boot, then it is probably the best distro to reccomend to new users.
I do have Arch as my main OS installed on another drive, and that does everything else i need.
It's good for new users. But it should be noted that does not mean that power users and tinkerers wouldn't also like it.
Yeah, things are different on Bazzite. You can install things via homebrew as well. For yt-dlp use brew install yt-dlp (same command for btop). If something isn't on homebrew too, there is a distrobox option. If you get used to AUR, Bazzite can be a little tedious.
If you get used to AUR, Bazzite can be a little tedious.
I just use my Arch distrobox to access AUR if I need to (though I don't think I've had to).
rpm-ostree is an adjustment, but now that I understand it more and know all of my options for installing packages, I think it's fantastic.
The devs recommend against using rpm-ostree but yeah, distrobox is limitless. It's just doing things different way. I also like how Bazzite (or Aurora) adds a program as a menu shortcut installed via distrobox, pretty convenient.
I just mean learning how the ostree shit works in general for the most part. For pinning images and learning how to rollback if needed, etc.
I try not to install things using rpm-ostree unless absolutely necessary.
Edit: I probably should have just said "ostree" in the original comment.
You most likely won't need it since there is distrobox option.
I had to install coolercontrol that way. Unless that was a ujust command, I forget.
I have Debian on my Legion Go because of this.
You could have just made a Debian distrobox
I wanted Debian over Bazzite.
I'm not a fan of Bazzite.
Are you a Bazzite dev?
It's okay, I promise we still like Bazzite. We're just haha-ing over here, nothing personal.
I am not, I just really like it lol... And people seem to have lots of misconceptions about it so I like to try to clear that stuff up when I see it.
As a long time Linux user, I can relate 100%
I moved to Cachy for my Ally now. It's swap implementation allow me to set the VRAM on auto and play Last Epoch and my TTW install without crashing due to running out of RAM.
Ooh! Is that swap implementation the default? I got back into LE for the launch of the newest season, and while I haven't had any problems on my Ally or Deck yet, I just finished the campaign so I'm barely into endgame - I hear the issues start as you get deeper into monos...
Funnily enough, I use Cachy on my desktop, but I don't recall seeing anything regarding this, but I'm definitely happy to run it on my Ally too if it helps avoid future potential crashes.
But why, though? Why not just use the better distro directly?
Because I play games on my PC and bazzite works wonderfully for that right out of the box?
Because I like the concept of an immutable distro and not having to ever worry about an update breaking my install, and not being able to boot to my desktop ever again?
What makes it a "better distro" exactly?
Also, I can install/run packages from any other distro and package manager from there, not just "the better distro." I use it to access the AUR for example. There aren't many limitations there at all. While also being incredibly stable...
I have nvidia, so Debian works better for gaming personally
Well, I can't speak to that as I have no experience with it. I do know that bazzite has a couple preconfigured "ujust" commands related to setting up nvidia drivers. No idea how well it works.
Bazzite desktop seems to be completely usable with a 20XX+ card. It's Gaming Mode that boots straight into steam big picture mode that where all of the issues lie.
Cards below do suffer even on desktop though and can regularly crash due to an instability in their drivers when using wayland.
Bazzite is the better distro because you install things in a distrobox. Muck around, break things in there, but your main distro stays safe, secure and stable.
Until the keys change. And you spend forever wondering why it updates every day only to realize it was the same update over and over and over, and the only way they announce they broke things is a GitHub issue.
I love Bazzite, daily it on my gaming PC. But imutable distros do have challenges, and installing non-standard software is defintlately one of them.
Until the keys change. And you spend forever wondering why it updates every day only to realize it was the same update over and over and over, and the only way they announce they broke things is a GitHub issue.
Keys for what? Bazzite? When did this happen?
Yes, this did happen, but also, they fixed it, and owned up to and totally explained their mistake.
As a Bazzite fan, lmao. True
yeah it's rpm-ostree install <pkg>
what's the big deal
Not really though... Not gonna be that annoying guy and repeat what I and others have said elsewhere in the thread, but you should read some of the replies here.
This made me lol today, thank you
its in the ubuntu or debian toolbox. distrobox is pretty freaking awesome.
I love bazzite for handheld consoles but before I install it on my desktop there needs to be version based on ordinary 'non-immutable' fedora kde. That being said, immutable distros are more stable
I've been using it on my laptop for over 6 months now and it has been fantastic.
I mean, if you're really hardcore, you can build your own immutable distro image using the distro you want... but that's way above my paygrade. I don't think it's that difficult, just something I have no intention of learning.
Unlikely to happen. Not only is all their build tooling etc. made for immutable distros (and they have a lot of other ones besides Bazzite), but it would also mean throwing away the biggest advantages for little gain.
I switched from Bazzite to Garuda to get away from it being immutable. It's been great.
What's your problem with the image based OS?
If there's really anything you need, you can layer it or build your own image quite easily.
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