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By Professor Marc Murphy of the Brandeis School of Law

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 235 points 3 months ago

2016 was worse for America than 9/11.

[-] griff@lemmings.world 59 points 3 months ago

Jr Bush/ Cheney laid an awful lot of the groundwork for Trunk One’s malevolence

[-] Trebuchet@lemm.ee 43 points 3 months ago
[-] griff@lemmings.world 33 points 3 months ago

Lee Atwater, Newt Gingrich etc etc etc

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago
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[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

As did Reagan and Bush I. And for that matter, a lot of their people cut their teeth under Nixon. Some cancers take a long time to grow.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

~~Never Forget~~ We Forgor

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

2000 was worse for America than 9/11.

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[-] parody@lemmings.world 5 points 3 months ago

Retrospectively? Would give someone’s left nut for 2016 murca and not fucking bullshit 2025 fucking Russia (the one between Maine/Alaska/Hawaii/Florida under the orange thumb)

Hope your kids never wanted to ski outdoors Heritage Foundation!

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[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 142 points 3 months ago

Mr. President, a second presidency just hit the south tower.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 months ago

They’re building a third tower now

[-] gazby@lemmy.dbzer0.com 140 points 3 months ago

The pathway to authoritarianism is lined with people telling you to stop overreacting

[-] SkyeStarfall 25 points 3 months ago

I hope as fuck that everyone who said that eventually realize they were warned, and take some humility into the future

Maybe, maybe, break Cassandra's curse. At least for a little bit

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 38 points 3 months ago

Yea, and then they’ll say “never forget” and build a monument and a museum. And then everyone forgets 2 generations later. Just look at Israel, the families there still materially experience the lingering effects of genocide yet they continue to perpetrate another one.

[-] SkyeStarfall 12 points 3 months ago

That is the unfortunate reality of it. I wish I could say that I hope it will be different this time but..

About the one hope I have is that during the next iteration we overhaul society's systems to so solidly work for the average person that it helps counteract this cycle, but it's hard to stay optimistic for sure

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 6 points 3 months ago

The pathway to chronic fatigue leading to inaction is lined by people catastrophizing every day. Sometimes I wish the criticism of Trump was a bit more targeted. Some people claimed with a straight face that he would amend the constitution to take away women's voting rights on his first day of office. While time and effort was spent talking about that, some of the "lesser activities" he performed, like greatly curtailing the EPA, or budget cuts to the IRS went unnoticed.

I don't know if there is a name for this effect, but it seems like so many people are talking about how the world is burning in every way and that makes it difficult to conduct opposition to his efforts.

The only "good thing" for me is that almost by any way you measure his presidency, it's been pretty bad. Wages haven't gone up, productivity hasn't gone up, GNP hasn't gone up, etc. Every day it gets a little harder for his fans to defend him. I suspect instead of leaning on actual data that they will just confabulate some other data that makes things seem favorable.

I find it a little comforting to think that it wouldn't have gone as bad as this if Kamala got in.

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[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

There are plenty of people overreacting, so stop overreacting about no overreaction /s

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 104 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I've never seen anything in the US more complicit towards fascism and autocracy than the US media. They reported NOTHING negative about Trump for months? Why? Fairness? But Kamala got fucked every headline ''Job Numbers trending up, but are the numbers too soft because of Harris? " type of bullshit.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 63 points 3 months ago

Almost as if the rich and powerful have WAY too much control. Break out yer guillotines!

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Always has been. Have you ever checked out how the imperial media covers genocide?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Why? Because right wingers own 98% of the mainstream media and push bullshit constantly while telling you and I that the left is controlling media and the government when they control neither in any substantial way.

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[-] kittenzrulz123 49 points 3 months ago
[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago
[-] Wazowski@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago

Just need a 2nd plane labelled "republican traitor filth".

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 33 points 3 months ago

I don't know why you would write the same term 3 times.

[-] Steve@startrek.website 6 points 3 months ago

They could be labeled trump 2024 and trump 2028

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago

I do think that Trump's first administration was fascist-lite. He had set precedence that future politicians will do. However, his second term has now gone full fascist and it is no longer "setting precedence", but making breakthrough and ripping apart the very heart of democracy and what it means to be human.

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

Kick a narcissist out of your home and tell them you don’t want them anymore, and if they manage to get back in, you won’t ever forget you crossed them.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

The media called his second run a "revenge tour", and they weren't fucking wrong. Trump's only objective this time around is to stick it to the people who held him back the first time. First his old cabinet, then career civil servants, then judges, and eventually, the rest of us.

[-] wabafee@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Cheetos can't melt steel beams.

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[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago
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[-] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

I mean... I'm from the US myself and this is extremely true

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

It was rejected for being extremely distasteful.

It's not wrong, but there's no tie in to the administration that makes the image need to be the scene of thousands of people murdered by terrorists.

[-] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 55 points 3 months ago

Trump's terrible response to COVID19 resulted in a daily thousand people dead for nearly three years, 10,000 a week at it's peak, almost a million in total.

His admin has also been accused many times of using terror tactics.

I think 20 years is long enough that political cartoonists can make 9/11 similes without worrying too much about pearl clutching.

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

Americans aren't very good at history, but most of them can at least keep this millennium straight...

[-] JollyBrancher@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

Not really. "Conservative"/now far right media "entertainment" networks went wild for those 20+ years and managed to garner greater support for an ever further learning pro-fascist edge. It was overly effective for some and now it's a runaway train.

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[-] laranis@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 months ago

I took the analogy not as "Trump equals terrorism and death" but that Trump's attack on the rule of law and the Constitution is at least as big of a threat and should be met with an equally vigorous response by a united United States. The cartoonist could have done it in the style of the Pearl Harbor attack and it would have achieved the same metaphor, though probably wouldn't have had the same gut-punch effect.

Point is it should be a lightning rod for America to act. Sad that it is not.

Also, not condoning the wars that followed 9/11 and the Patriot act and all of the other bullshit we got because of it.

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Thousands of people are on the verge of being murdered/deported by terrorists now, seems like a fair comparison to me.

[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Trump and his cult are terrorists though

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[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

He did not point the finger at any particular paper. At least not where I saw the cartoon.

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