Just a little at a time. Most sites let you change your email. As you get a message from a site move it to your other email.
I just forwarded my outlook and gmail to my proton. Changed the account I use most and then when an account emails and it gets forwarded it reminds me to then change it.
Also then filters out the 100s of older accounts that can probably die with my old email
I transitioned e-mail address twice. What has worked for me is doing it slowly. Keep the old address around: from time to time you'll get emails from services you did not even remember being subscribed to. Also, if you don't use a password manager, now it's the perfect time to start. I suggest Bitwaden
Thanks. I do use bitwarden as well I selfhost a bunch of stuff like nextcloud. I'm actually weirded out on myself that I'm still depending from google
*Lose
You could literally destroy me financially or other ways by just gaining login to my gmail.
Sounds like you need to start using MFA.
I'm still transitioning to gmail from my hotmail accounts....
I know some still working on this with their AOL accounts...
You have to accept that privacy costs money because your data isn't being sold. For $5+ a month you can use proton Mail or tutanota. For ~$2 a month you can use Zoho mail or Titan mail.
Whatever you choose, it will be worth it.
If you set up a domain with Protonmail, you can have unlimited email addresses for that domain, although they all go to the same inbox that way. I like to use a website's name as the user when I sign up with a website, so it's like officedepot@mydomain.com. If I start getting emails to that address from somebody other than Office Depot, I know those rat-bastards sold me out.
With Proton Pass it will even generate those fake emails for you. No need to tweak any settings. And the best part is that you're not forced to use the password manager that goes with it.
Speaking from experience, I'd recommend not choosing protonmail because it is very difficult to cleanly stop paying and leave - forwarding mail to another address is a paid feature. It's also not very standards compliant (no IMAP/SMTP support without running a buggy bridge). Their security features are mostly useless and better security can be achieved on standards-compliant services if you try.
Buying one or more domains and using those with protonmail gives you 100% portability. Just redirect your domains to a different mail server if you decide to make a switch.
Less of a leap and more of a careful crawl. Use nee email for new services, and deactivate old accounts if possible. I have yet to selfhost email, but for hosted options proton and tutanota are better than gmail for easily. The issue with selfhosting email is that it is easy to get blacklisted iirc.
Doesn't take nearly as long as you'd think if you start to slowly transition stuff to the new address.
I'm thinking about this every once in a while. What about using a custom domain and a relay service like FireFox Relay or Addy.io? That would give you the option to move your actual email around easily, even after you lose access to it.
I just did this. I have an android phone so I will have a hard time getting rid of google account but I have used clodflare to create a custom email and have setup forwarding/sending vianalias inside gmail. I made a separatr address for website registrations and personal mail. I will slowly start the transitioning of all my accounts.
I switched to Fastmail a few months ago and love it.
My tip is: Start simple.
- If you have any other Domains forwarded to Gmail forward them to Fastmail instead.
- Forward Gmail to Fastmail (i.e. add as an account including importing old mails). This won't get you off Google yet, but at least a backup and you can practically stop using Gmail.
- For any new registration, use Fastmail (or any of its random emails etc.)
- Slowly transition your old accounts.
Before you change your accounts over to your new email, use email aliases like anonaddy or simplelogin for your online accounts.
This is what I've done. I've literally just moved to Proton from Gmail. I created aliases for all my sites. The only site that knows about my Proton email address is SimpleLogin.
The only emails in Gmail now are from Google services tied to that Gmail account.
I used Bitwarden to help generate the aliases.
you're a fucking genius.
I've been contemplating this exact thing and after reading this thread, I know what I'm doing tonight. ty!
The biggest downside is there is a cost associated with doing all this. I've gone from free to paying for a domain (optional), SimpleLogin and protonmail.
If you're going to use SimpleLogin and proton then look at their proton unlimited tier. I had SimpleLogin prior to proton so I only use the Mail Plus tier. SimpleLogin comes included in the unlimited tier.
Does bitwarden offer an email alias service, or you just used it to generate the alias names?
No but you can use API's from various alias services so that Bitwarden can generate your aliases for you.
So first off, not sure if you're in a different country or something, but I live in the US, and basically every website, Government or not, has a way to easily change your email address.
I've run into one or two that I had to call to confirm, but still, it was pretty painless.
Second, gmail allows you to automatically forward your emails to a different email address. While you're going through the process of changing your primary email on different websites, set up a universal forwarding rule on gmail to send all emails to your new address.
Third, for actually transitioning your emails, sit down and write a list out of all your services that are tied to your email starting with most critical first. This would be banking, auto bill payments for utilities, car payments, credit cards, phone/internet payments, investment logins, etc.
Basically, the sites that if you lost access to or couldn't auto pay with, you would be screwed or at risk of late payments.
Getting all of those down should be pretty quick because there shouldn't be that many unless you have a ton of different loans, banks, and investment portfollios.
Getting those taken care of will take your stress down significantly. Then move on to important, but not critical, this could be your streaming services, other subscriptions like news sites or newsletters, important apps or services you pay for.
Then tier three is everything else. Stuff that doesn't really matter that much.
This is what I did and now I'm completely off Gmail/Outlook and onto Protonmail and love it.
Last thing to remember is to download anything in your email that might be important. Just force the rule to run through your whole inbox and it will forward all your old emails to your new address. This will likely take many hours to fully sync, but eventually all email records will be moved over to your new email address.
I just finished this as well with Proton and SimpleLogin. Tier 1 get my actual Proton address. Tier 2 gets an alias address. Tier 3 gets closed as needed or an alias address.
Good idea.
I found this easier than expected. I was already in the habit of not using my main personal account for online signups etc - just for friends and family. So i setup forwarding for the important contacts first. If I get a fwded mail i make sure I respond from the new one so they have it . There were still some services using gmail - utility companies etc. I switched each of those to other addresses using a redirector - at first simplelogin , now hide my email (but probably going to switch again). I left the gmail live for now. Downloaded everything using GoogleTakeaway. I havent yet closed it down so not sure what that involves yet, but Im not dependent on it now.
It might seem daunting at first, but get started and gradually move stuff to your new address. It does sound like you live in a place where this might be easier said than done saying that. Maybe the gmail address stays live only with a few final gov services (dont forget to filter and fwd them).
I'm been in this process for the last two months (because there are so many sites to change my e-mail address). I went with Gmail originally so I did not have to change my address everytime I changed ISPs.
So my first step was to use my own domain name so that as long as i keep renewing that annually (it's a small cost) then I keep my e-mail address (even if I change actual e-mail providers).
Next was to find an e-mail service I could point my domain to. I also needed one where I could download my e-mail to my desktop computer for archiving and reference, eg. I'm using BetterBird, but ThunderBird is another option.
So finding a mail provider is interesting as most that let you use your own domain name (custom domain name) are not free. One option was paying a small fee to by actual domain provider and use their service. I went though for ProtonMail in the end as I was already paying for their VPN service, so the difference to upgrade to the "everything" account was not that much more and scored me 500GB of online storage too (I pay separately for Bitwarden password management, otherwise that would be another plus). This allowed me to use my custom domain name (unlimited addresses), download mail through their bridge, etc.
So the real challenge really was finding a suitable mail service. I can switch easily in the future as I just point my domain name to the new mail provider, and never have to update my mail address at any sites again, and all mail is always available on my desktop computer.
I set up amazon workmail with my custom domain. Cost is $4 a month for 50GB inbox.
You can make as many aliases as you want for the same inbox.
provider is interesting as most that let you use your own domain name (custom domain name) are not free. One option was paying a small fee to by actual domain provider and use their service. I went though for ProtonMail in the end as I was already paying for their VPN service, so the difference to upgrade to the “everything” account was not that much more and scored me 500GB of online storage too (I pay separately for Bitwarden password management, otherwise that would be another plus). This allowed me to use my custom domain name (unlimited addresses), download mail through their bridge, etc.
So the real challenge really was finding a suitable mail service. I can switch easily in the future as I just point my domain name to the new mail provider, and never have to update my mail address at any sites again, and all mail is always available on my desktop computer.
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Just change the email address for all your accounts where it's possible to change it. In your GMail settings forward all incoming emails to your new email adress.
Some e-mail providers (like Proton for example) allow you to import your e-mails and contacts from gmail - that's a start. You probably have all your passwords saved in browser/manager so you will know where to go to update them - unfortunately I don't think there's an automated way to do it, but it probably seems like more hassle than it actually is. I'd also search your mailbox for keywords like "welcome" or "account" to see if there are any other services you forgot you signed up for and haven't saved the password in browser/manager.
After all is migrated and updated, you would probably want to delete your google account but I wouldn't do that right away, just to give yourself some extra time in case you forgot about something. Log out of all google services and stop using them. Set a reminder for 1 year from now to delete the account.
Start with one site at a time, and if a site/service doesn’t allow you to change your email without contacting them, make a note of it, and don’t worry about it for now. To begin with, focus on the sites that you can change yourself. This will give you a sense of making progress, perhaps faster than you might think.
I started switching off of gmail about 4 years ago and I’m still checking it periodically. Most of the messages I get to my gmail account these days are spam or mistaken emails due to people signing up for services and thinking that my email address is theirs (I have an early “first initial/last name” gmail address that I got in 2005). But every once in a while something legit will pop up and I make it a point to change the address.
I don’t know if I’ll ever actually close my gmail account or stop checking it, but at this point I’ve got 99%+ of the services I care about switched over to my new address, so if Google boots me, I won’t care.
I have my Gmail since beta invites so over 20 years. I'm dying with that account it's basically my Internet SSN at this point. It's also my real name so it's professional n shit. The idea of moving it would be a disaster.
This is a fight you need to have. I know is an inconvenience but small steps like buy a domain and start using with new services or people is a way to start
I'm more afraid of what would happen if I loose mine. You cannot even contact google for help. I'm not owning my email. You are not owning your email.
Currently in transition. I have about 300ish accounts to change the email handles but i set myself a goal of at least 10 a day, more if I feel like it. Its a journey not a race take your time. In the mean time though you should be backing up anything important off of your account if you havent already like contacts, photos, files and messages. That should help with your nerves, at least it did with me.
I moved from gmail. Best thing to do is use an email aliasing service like anonaddy, all my aliases forward to a Tutanota email, but if Tutanota decides to do something drastic, I'm able to change where each email address points to.
I do the same. If I want to move mail provider in the future, it's just a case of updating the aliases to point to that new mailbox.
I frequently encounter people asking about moving from Gmail but I never understand, please help me understand if I'm wrong. Doesn't Gmail still let you forward emails to a 3rd party address? In which case just sign up for another email service and you're done. Email is a standard, not a service. I've changed email addresses probably about as many times as years I've been alive, it's probably the least likely service I could think of that you could be tied in to. Am I missing something huge here?
Multiple concerns: it will only forward emails as long as the acvount is alive. Google recently annoinced it will close accounts that are inactive for certain time so if you stop using it and just use it for forwarding you are risking to lose the mail. As well there is the privacy concern that google reads every email of yours and by forwarding you are not really solving that concern
Well yes, you move the accounts across to your new provider when you come across them or sign up for new ones (I presumed the problem was that you had so many accounts that you'd forgotten them, and for some reason you needed some legacy information from them). If a few inactive accounts die then no big deal surely, you sign up for new ones?
Yes; this.
I personally went with Proton Mail which even has an easy way to import your existing Gmail emails into your new Proton Mail account so they're still all in one place.
did it years ago. created several new email addresses for different purposes with one main new personal one. I set up a forwarding to that main address from Google while I transitioned online accounts to the new email addresses. now I use Google only for YouTube and my phone but the Google mailbox is pretty much defunct, occasionally I get an email but that is still being forwarded to my new main one
In addition to the other advice given in this thread, set an autoreply in your gmail that telld you that you have switched email addresses and include your new address. This way, people know of your new email address if someone still manages to mail you on your old email address.
I started by having my gmail forward to an alias email that goes to a newer more privacy focused email.
From there I would just update account when I got an email from them or the next time I used an account. It is slower then just going through all your accounts on your password manager, but its less daunting and typically the accounts you use the most are going to get updated quickly anyway.
At this point my gmail functions as a "professional sounding" alias for when I am not going to bust out my phone to create an alias for something I am doing in person.
As for something like gdrive, best practice is to have more then one backup, and encrypt what you put on cloud servers to avoid any scanning issues.
Never had gmail, I used my ancient hotmail to signup for a google account.
what email client do you use? I bought a domain with the exact same goal in mind, but I'm kinda new to self hosting / homelabs stuff and everywhere I look makes self hosting email seem extremely complicated
I use my own domain email but then I use POP3 into Gmail so I can use their interface. I haven't found an interface or software I like more yet.
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