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[-] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 14 points 7 hours ago

They let a convicted felon travel to their country?

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Only poor people wear black suits (he thinks to himself).

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 193 points 2 days ago

For those not appearing to get it, Trump allowed his sycophants to berate Zelenskyy for not wearing a suit in his White House meeting. Folks are treating Trump's attire faux pas accordingly.

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.today 22 points 1 day ago

This whole thing is stupid.

[-] Alaknar@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

This guy is not the president of the United States.

[-] nyctre@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Apparently the dress code is dark suit + black tie. So this is fine. Trump's tie was blue

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Because of Trump the world thinks us a fool.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Honestly, now that we're literally sending people to concentration camps, I have zero fucks to give about this superficial bullshit. No one gives a shit about what Hitler wore at the '36 Olympics, and no one's gonna care what this asshole wore to a funeral.

[-] ToastedPlanet 26 points 1 day ago

It's purely to be on the attack. Republicans showed for the last fifteen years if you're performatively aggressive against the opposition eventually you get what you want.

You don't have to hate Trump or his suit color. Just love democracy and socialism and the working class. If this gets some apolitical conservative people to not vote for the Republicans then awesome.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The thing was that they resorted to the tan suit and terrorist first bump bullshit because Obama gave them so little to work with. For Trump you didn't need to waste everyone's time when his administration is ignoring court orders, arresting judges, declaring warrants and due process unnecessary, and tanking the economy.

The tan suit stuff may have helped energize the base by preaching to the choir, but everyone else found it ridiculous and made them skeptical of conservative media. When you are inundated nearly daily with real terrible stuff, no need to undermine credibility by latching into this sort of fluff.

[-] ToastedPlanet 1 points 12 hours ago

but everyone else found it ridiculous and made them skeptical of conservative media.

I found it ridiculous too and it made me very skeptical of conservative media. I wasn't the target audience. And with this blue suit attack line, I'm not the target audience either. It's not for me or most of the people on social media delivering the sound bite. Like the tan suit controversy before it, it's for conservatives.

When you are inundated nearly daily with real terrible stuff, boo need to undermine credibility by latching into this sort of fluff.

Conservatives either don't believe, don't care, or like that terrible stuff. We should boo that too, and continue to cover it, but we need to take the short amount of time it takes to knock the fluff out of the park. Our issue hasn't been making fun of Trump for the wrong things, it's not making fun of him enough. We haven't been aggressive enough and Democratic politicians definitely haven't been aggressive enough.

I bought into Jon Stewart's line that we need to focus on more substantive criticisms. Then in it turned out Trump voters like him because of the economy and the price of eggs? No, we needed to make MAGA's 'strongman' look weak in the eyes of his supporters. Septimaeus covered this concept comprehensively so review that comment if you haven't already.

If all we talk about is fluff that would be a mistake, but refusing to engage with the fluff at all is also a mistake.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I corrected my typo, it was supposed to be no need.

Talking about him falling asleep can undermine his undeserved tough guy image, I don't think mocking his blue suit does anything but make it look like we are grasping at straws.

[-] ToastedPlanet 1 points 2 hours ago

We still need to do the more substantive arguments for our positions, such as progressive and socialist positions, and refutations of neoliberal and fascist positions. But once the sound-bite reaches saturation in the population it will, in theory anyway, have done the desired damage.

To some conservative people, a man not wearing a black suit to a funeral is effectively taboo. It effectively is to some of the users, without respect to their political positions, in this comment section apparently. It's something some of his voters will have to rationalize to defend him. If we do enough of these trivial ad hominem attacks eventually some people will be less motivated to vote Republican.

People who do not care about suit color will considered this topic to be a trivial non-issue and move on with their day. They aren't the target audience. And the people who do care will be really bothered by it. What bothers a person is different for everyone. People probably should be bothered by the more serious life or death stuff, but not everyone is. To some people climate change is a trivial non-issue and by talking about that we're grasping at straws according to them.

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I agree, and once would have dismissed the sociopolitical pragmatism described by the commenter above as “lowering our discourse to their level” or something of the sort.

I eventually realized that this instinctive criticism was valid only if they were still growing as people, and capable of more than what they are now. The assumption is that setting higher expectations might convince them to “elevate their discourse” if only to save face.

But what I’ve come to realize is that this was far too much to expect. By all the evidence available to date, these folks never advanced far beyond the emotional maturity of the average middle schooler. At this level of maturity, superficial and public humiliation is quite literally the most serious attack, as it bloodies waters presumed to be infested with sharks.

Yes it’s pathetic, and yes “stooping to their level” feels gross, but Republican voters are only enthused by policies which benefit them directly or hurt others they feel deserve it. Perceived power matters a lot to them, and seems to be attached to explicit expressions of it that are similarly pathetic— as in, truck nuts, “I am very smart,” “I have a great brain and concepts of a plan,” etc.

So public humiliation of trump for an otherwise petty and irrelevant issue (especially by someone he can’t touch without losing a chunk of his base) absolutely succeeds in making him look weak, and making Trump look weak is directly correlated with his voters’ loss of motivation to vote (see RWA personality type/disorder; it’s fascinating).

Enough of these successful offensives will cause his most die-hard voters to lose faith in him (caveat: to seek out somebody stronger) so to de-motivate a current right-wing conservative voter, likely we must accept that petty “mean girl” tactics are the only language they understand, due to their arrested emotional development, and robbing them of their “strongman” is both easy and effective. Ridicule the emperor with no clothes and his voters, who are themselves unclothed, might go home and rethink their fashion statement.

TLDR: It sucks but crass pragmatism may be warranted in this case. The first language of Trump voters is small-mindedness, and it’s often the only one they understand, so we might consider rolling our sleeves up and speaking it if only so future generations don’t have to.

Edit: corrected swype errors.

[-] Bieren@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

Thank god it wasn’t tan.

[-] fake_meows@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

The tan suit had mustard stains on it, otherwise...

[-] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 83 points 2 days ago

This was not an accident. First, it gets him to stand out from the crowd, draw all the attention to himself, and make it all about him which is what he lives and breathes for. Second, it gets the media to focus on something other than him eliminating due process, having judges arrested, using the DOJ to attack perceived enemies, deporting US citizens, and completely ignoring court rulings while those who have the power to stop it sit back and either do nothing or actively support it.

[-] Krimika@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Came here to find this.

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[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Just one in my lifetime I wanna see the rapists, the convicted felons, the wannabe gangsters elected to office, the people linked to Jeffrey Epstein, the presidents who put personal interest before country, the tactless lying connen grifters and the orange buffoons leave this plane before the good men with some semblance of balance, tolerance, moderation and compassion.

Just once in my lifetime.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago

At least kissinger finally kicked it

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 111 points 2 days ago

Yeah, it's the suit that's embarrassing, not the "239 lbs" of rancid garbage sloshing around inside.

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

No fucking way he's less than 250lbs

[-] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

That's why they put it in quotes. During his first term his personal doctor listed Trump's weight at 239, which everyone with at least one functioning eyeball knows is complete horseshit. But naturally he lies about that like he lies about everything else

[-] lemmingthelemmers@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

He's dressed in the colors of the nation he represents.

Blue and white.

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago
[-] TheAlbatross 66 points 2 days ago

We're back to suit color news. America is healing.

[-] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

Main character syndrome.

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago

“But the blue suit is MY BRAND!”

[-] tauonite@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Oh come on, tan suit again? You're better than this, people

[-] gnate@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Not really equivalent situations. Obama wearing a tan suit wasn't in a context that demanded a specific wardrobe.

[-] wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago

This. Obama can wear what color he wants at the White House and there should not be an issue, but he would be expected to follow dress code at a FUNERAL because it's common decency.

[-] ToastedPlanet 13 points 1 day ago

We're living in a fascist dictatorship. If making fun of Trump for his blue suit makes Republicans lose in the midterms that's all that matters. Anyone who seriously believes suit color matters at a funeral is living in a state of self-inflicted misery.

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[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

No, most of Trump's supporters are idiots so you have to point out every miniscule little fuck up otherwise they will think that Trump is amazing.

Yes, it's inconsequential, but if you don't make a fuss about it Republicans will think he is infallible.

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

When I die I won't give a single fuck what people who go to my funeral wear.

I'm not defending the guy. I'm just accusing the church of being the other side. Assholes on both sides. I hope my exercised freedom of speech doesn't ruffle feathers. I don't have a suit myself.

I remember when John Paul died and we got Ratzinger Z who was promptly removed for sexual stuff. So I might live to see 4 popes! What a time to be alive! 4 popes. Most people I know are also 3 popes old and pushing for 4.

[-] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

Funerals are not for the dead, they're for the living experiencing grief in the wake of a loss.

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[-] zloubida@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Not to defend him, but that's exactly what Francis didn't care about.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago

On the plus side, it is the sort of thing Trump cares about. Hit him in the vanity if you want him to feel it.

[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

I suggest that you stop using his name. He gives out pet names constantly to de-humanize his enemies. Pick one of these or use a different one every day.

A loaded adult diaper of belligerence

Adjudicated Serial Rapist (VOTED MOST ACCURATE)

Agent Orange

Agolf Twitler

All in all, it's just a little prick with no Wall

He lives in: Alternative fact land

Ancient Orange

Assholini

Ayatollah Complainy (Thanks Stephen Colbert)

Baron Von Shitzinpantz

Benedict Donald

Blab the Inhaler

Borderline Junius

Borderwall Personality Disorder

Captain Bone Spurs

Captain Capslock

Chainsaw-In-Chief 

Chaos in Chief

Cheat Miser "Whatever I touch, starts to melt in my clutch." 

Cheddar Cheezus

Cheeto Brain

Cheeto Christ, Stupid Czar

Chettolini

Combover Caligula

Commander in Thief

Commander in Tweet

Condom Escapee

Conman-der in chief

Conquistaorange

Coppertone Caligulia

Coup Klux Tan

Current presidential placeholder

Darth Cheetoh

Dementia Don

Diaper Don

Dick a l'Orange

Diet Dr. Putin

Dingus Con

Dipshit Donnie

Disaster in Chief

Dodgin Donny

Dollar Tree Dictator

Don Feloni

Don Poorleone, The Fraudfather

Don the con

Donald “putinsremoved” Trump

Donnie Dumpo

Donnie Thin Skin

Donorrhea of the mouth. A Republican ailment.

Dorito Mussolini

Droolius Geezer

Dumbo Donnie

E Pluribus Dumbdumb

Everlasting Jobstopper

F Elon

Faux prez

Felon (DO NOT USE by order of inmate #P01135809)

Facsimile Fuehrer

Fanta Fascist

Fanta Fuhrer

Fart face von shit stick

Felon 47

Felonious Dump

Fibbernazi  Revenger

First lady Donald J. Musk

Fraudfather

GropenFührer

Gulf Of Idiot. Middle name of Of

Hair Farce One

Half off Adolf

His Royal Heelspur

Individual One

Inmate #P01135809

Klanned Karenhood

Lil' Donny Two-Scoops

Lord Feltersnatch

Lord Repugnant of the Fourth Reich

MAGA Teresa

Maga-Lardo

Manchild McTinyhands

Manchurian Cantaloupe

Mango Moron

Mango Mussilini

Mango Unchained

Marmalade Maggot

Marmalade Messiah

Melon Felon

Moscow Marionette

Mrs Donald Putin

MyPillow guy low-budget stunt double

Nectarine Nazi

Ol' Smeller

Old Wack Donald

Orange Caligula

Orange Foolius

Orange Hitler

Orange Judas

Orange Tufted Shit Gibbon

Orange Von Fat Fuck

Orangesama bin G'olfin

Orangutan

Papaya Pinochet

Payless Putin

Pervert Hoover

Pumpkin pol pot

Pumpkin Pustule

Pumpkin Spice Palpatine

Putin’s Puppet

Scammer in Chief

Sleepy Donzales

Super Callous Fragile Ego Extra Douchey Rapist

Super Callous Fragile Racist Sexist NAZI POTUS

Tang the Conqueror

Tangerine Palpatine "Let the hate flow through you. Feel the power of the covfefe side of the farce!'

Tangerine Palpatine

Tangerine Skidmark

Tangerine Turd

Tangerine Tyrant

The Count of Mostly Crisco

The Fanta Menace

The Melon Felon

The Quicker, Thicker F***er Upper

The Slob Father

The Village People's Idiot

Theme song: I Shot the Tariff

Theme song: Tsar Spangled Banner

Toxic Revenger

Trumpaloompa

Trumplethinskin

Trumpty Dumpty

Velveeta Voldemort

X‘s Diaper

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[-] vegeta@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

At least he didn't eat any Grey Poupon™

[-] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Well he's finally being held to the same standards as Obama

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[-] Geobloke@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

Don't try to shame 47, he has no shame. I can't even watch the UK office because of second hand cringe, but he would probably take notes

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[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Honestly, I don't give a fuck. He's doing genuinely despicable things that are much more deserving of the media's limited time.

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