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Going home (lemmy.world)
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[-] rpl6475@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Always adopt, don't shop

[-] vladmech@lemmy.world 49 points 5 days ago

Every time I see a picture like this, or walk by a Petco with a local shelter doing adoptions it front, I’m like “maybe we have room for one more…..”

[-] ickplant@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago

Same, same. It’s my dream to adopt 2 dogs at once who come as a pair, like these two.

[-] cmeu@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Those dogs are permanently bonded to you. They'll always remember the way they feel on that car ride out of jail. To you they may be a small part of your life, but to them you're everything Adopt adopt adopt

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

Gotcha Days are the beginning of the best days.

[-] Lanske@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

We adopted a rescue and she is the best dog we ever had

[-] masayuki60@social.vivaldi.net 9 points 5 days ago
[-] Kyle@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

"Adopt, don't shop" can lead to more animal abuse. It doesn't teach anyone about what a responsible breeder is if they are determined to buy, nor does it educate people on how to find a responsible shelter. Responsible breeders ensure none of the dogs go to a shelter. The message is disrespectful to responsible breeders and owners, and does nothing but alienate people who have had a dog or work to improve their health.

More details: https://humanwords.cc/notes/a6wcmo9ct59f01eu

Please say Adopt and shop responsibly instead.

[-] SuperNovaStar 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It doesn't teach anyone about what a responsible breeder is

I can teach you what a responsible breeder looks like:

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All breeders are bastards

[-] Kyle@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

There hasn't been a single time that blanket generalizations and slurs against a demographic of people have ever led to positive social change. Given that everyone in this thread is a proponent for the ethical treatment of animals, let's have a civilized conversation free of disgraceful attacks, please.

This minor change in wording quantitatively teaches people what a responsible breeder is.

Enter "adopt and shop responsibly" into any search engine, and it will list articles that educate buyers to try to adopt if they can. If they won't, it will list the many standards that help them find a responsible breeder.

A responsible breeder will: · Raise the puppies in a house, not a facility · Begin the socialization process and habituate them to people and children · Won’t overbreed the Dam. · Raise them until at least 8 weeks of age. · Vet checks the puppies and provides records of all vaccinations, deworming, and veterinary attention the puppy has received. · Maintain a clean and safe environment with proper food and water · Honesty and transparency will let you meet the Dam and the puppies where they are raised. · Ethical placement, vetting their clients, ensures the dog enters a home appropriate for their temperament and breed. · Contracts require clients to agree to spay or neuter the dog and return it to the breeder, not a shelter. · Genetic and health testing will ensure that the Dam and Sire don’t have genes that combine to create known genetic diseases and conditions. · Following best practice breed standards for health and ensuring the Sire and Dam are temperamentally suited for breeding the kinds of dogs they offer. · Warranties for the dog’s health up to 5 years for things like eyes, joints and common hereditary genetic issues.

Nobody can argue that the above standards are worse than those of a backyard breeder, yet this is how people behave.

If I apply the same logic that "if all dogs are adopted, there will no longer be dogs in shelters," then "if all dogs come from responsible breeders that never relinquish dogs to shelters, there will no longer be dogs in shelters." The black-and-white thinking that adopted dogs and responsibly bred dogs are somehow mutually exclusive is not true and is harmful.

People WILL keep getting dogs from breeders until the end of time. Making sure those people act responsibly and only ever seek an ethical breeder is called harm reduction, and it keeps dogs out of shelters every day. Missing opportunities to educate people on seeking ethical breeders will funnel those people to backyard breeders instead. Holding breeders accountable to the above standards is much more effective than calling them bastards. Dogs deserve better than half measures and hate. They deserve to be treated with respect at all points in their life, and in every aspect of our society.

[-] SuperNovaStar 1 points 4 days ago

Jobs are not the same as races. Your job is a choice and if it was a bad one you could choose a better one.

People WILL keep getting dogs from breeders until the end of time.

I'm hopeful that isn't true. I'm also hopeful that people will stop killing our planet and stop eating animals, too. I don't think 'no more breeders' is harder than those goals.

[-] Kyle@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

I'm sorry, activists intentionally spreading misinformation to benefit backyard breeders now has something to do with race?

This is appalling.

[-] SuperNovaStar 1 points 4 days ago

Sorry I didn't take the time to quote.

You said:

There hasn't been a single time that blanket generalizations and slurs against a demographic of people have ever led to positive social change.

Which is why I said that dog breeders are a profession, not something immutable like race.

I'm happy to level blanket generalizations at cops, too, in case you were wondering.

[-] MummysLittleBloodSlut 1 points 4 days ago

There are enough dogs already.

[-] Kyle@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Correct, there are enough dogs, except once the shelters are empty, people have no choice but to go to breeders. We've seen this happen before. That statement does not exemplify for lawmakers how to regulate an industry that is permanently a part of our society. It doesn't tell buyers to consider their plans to get a dog seriously. It doesn't encourage shelters and breeders to engage in ethical placement of their dogs.

An increase in adoption from shelters is something we can all agree on, but a decrease on intake to shelters is where the homeless dog problem is taken on directly. Looking at half the equation only helps dogs half of the way. Dogs deserve the best lives and that includes preventing them from ending up in a shelter to begin with.

This is about preventing dogs from going into shelters. Surely you don't want more dogs in shelters, yet this rhetoric ignores all of that.

[-] Lena245@freeradical.zone 1 points 4 days ago

@Kyle @MummysLittleBloodSlut
Except when the shelters are empty, the rescues import dogs from 3rd world countries.

[-] Kyle@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

If you want to keep paradoxically making the market more ripe for backyard breeders by spreading misinformation by all means, keep doing it.

But people working to educate prospective dog owners to be responsible and prevent dogs from being abused to begin with will always be on the right side of history.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Aww... the black and white ... pitbullish mutt reminds me of my first dog, also a black and white pittbullish mutt, ... somehow nearly the exact same pattern, but inverted colors.

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