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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 14 points 6 days ago

I'm over 30, I don't want to work anymore, period. But I can't live off what I have or off the land, so to the grinder I go.

[-] Darkonion@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

My terrible idea is that the world move to an 8 day week. Everyone works (at most) 4 days on, 4 days off. School is 4 on, 4 off. Two alternating shifts. Its always the weekend for half of everyone and everything is always open. I guarantee a roomful of smart people will be able to tear this idea to shreds. We could invent cool new names for all the days of the week though.

[-] Deepus@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

I like that idea, only problem i have is picking who works which days. Like i want days off with my partner but if we are on opposite shifts we wont see each other.

[-] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 91 points 1 week ago

you no longer have that kind of energy because you have a 5 day work week.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wait, so if I only worked four days a week I'd have the energy to work five days a week?

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I work a four day workweek, but I also work 25% longer every workday than most people do.

I'm grateful for my extra day off, but I'm also tired every workday. And a lot of non workdays.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

My guy and I do 4 10s when we have the workload, and yeah, same deal. 3 day weekends are rad, but like hell if I have energy for anything after work on those other 4 days.

Some days I miss being a one-man show and being able to work just enough jobs to keep my bills paid and food on the table, but I wouldn't be able to take on the more fun jobs by myself.

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I've never been a one man show, but I definitely miss the days of freedom and relative lack of consequence. While most of my jobs over the last decade or so have been fairly engaging, I think my current job is the first one that really pushes me on a regular basis.

I'm grateful for the opportunity to learn, but also it can be hard to relax.

[-] Kyouki@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

No.

(i want four day workweek)

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Increase production with this one weird trick. Proletariats hate it.

[-] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago

"No man should have to work more than 40 hours per week!"

"Yeah, that seems pretty reasonable."

"Women should be able to work for the same wages!"

"Of course. We should all have equal rights."

"20 hours should be the new work week!"

"I don't know, man. Seems pretty leftist. It's not like we nearly doubled employment."

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 96 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Our grandparents earned enough as single earners to provide for their entire family and own a house.

Now 2 people work and they can barely pay rent on an apartment.

Its not hard to see why the right cries about the good old times, except somehow its the gays, and not the bourgeoisie that they believe are what caused the decline.

[-] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

Agreed, and I feel like that's what I'm getting at here. A family of five used to be able to exchange 40 hours of labor with the economy and at least get by. Now it's 80 hours, and we're struggling. The right is suggesting we put our children to work to make up the difference.

I think we're on the same page.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

Absolutely, just re-iterating using different words.

[-] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Oh, well, thank you then. Now I'm just envious that I wasn't able to communicate my message as clearly and succinctly. Kudos to you.

[-] ulterno@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

Look at the bright side!

At least the bourgeoisie can provide for their ENTIRE family now.

Oh and there are probably more bourgeoisie than back then.

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[-] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

30h/week since 2024, I am never going back.

Instead of working, I am just playing Oblivion Remastered all day today.

[-] bunnyBoy@pawb.social 33 points 1 week ago

I'm so happy for you!

They said through clenched teeth while white knuckeling their desk, waiting to get off work so they can go back to playing Oblivion Remastered

[-] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago

Living should only be for people with a will to live. I really don't.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Honestly as someone under 30 I could accept this. Obviously universal 4 day week would be better, but if this would sell the idea to the boomers it would be worth it.

[-] vrojak@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

The boomers are old a lot older than 30 though, so it would need to be a 4 day week for everyone over 60. At that point it's barely useful anyways

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah but they don't have a hate boner for 30-40-50 year old like they do for "young people"

[-] yeehawboy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Think about the shareholders!!!!

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

They can hold a share of deez nuts.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago
[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Well, I have some bad news for you... it gets worse.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It doesn't have to! Or so I've heard. But it does seem to.

[-] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

I'm terms of working hours it could get better. You might end up doing 0 hours a week, because you'll be unemployed.

[-] Hjalamanger@feddit.nu 8 points 1 week ago

4 day work week or 6 hours work day tough?

[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Why not both ?

6 hours a day, 4 days a week, same pay. My productivity would be unchanged if not increase!

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, I'd put in more effort for sure, but that's also because I'm underpaid by about half right now, so that would even it out.

[-] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago
[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago

6 day work month though.

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[-] SCmSTR 5 points 1 week ago

Couple years ago I was doing a freelance project doing 133hr weeks for a few months straight. I found it very fulfilling. I am over 30.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

You were not being micromanaged, and you were not sitting in a soulless, fluorescent cubicle next to 50 other drones being forced to do the same.

The environment and how workers are treated is just as much to blame as the total hours worked per week. Possibly more so.

I am a contract educator. Before COVID I was practically working sunup to sundown every single day of the week barring national holidays and I loved it. Because I am my own boss, it involves lots of travel, and I get to play with kids all day.

[-] SCmSTR 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

As fulfilling as the work itself was, the resulting negativity still negated it.

Putting forth a Herculean effort and having it be thankless or worse destroys you in a unique way.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Before COVID I was practically working sunup to sundown every single day of the week

That's like 5h work days 1/4 of the year...must be nice

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lol found the European/Yankee

Down here in the South even in winter you've got easy 8hrs of daylight depending on where you are

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Scandinavian, but yeah i was mostly joking with how useless "sunup to sundown" is as a measure of time because it varies wildly by season and location.

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[-] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 10 points 1 week ago

Christ how did you survive 😳

[-] SCmSTR 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

~~I dunno. It's just one of those things in my life that I've grown accustomed to. I have adhd, so if I'm into something, I end up going all out on it to make up for my shortcomings in other areas. I think I'm in one of those cycles of trying to please really hard but resulting in trauma and being burnt out with ptsd. My whole life has been fighting this series of thankless, abusive managers and trying to improve myself and striving for excellence to please. Kinda funny though since I'm now so burnt out that I can't work at 35 and have social anxiety so bad that I only leave the house about once a week. Every successive job I've ever had, I've had to dig deeper in order to pull magic tricks out of my ass, and when I do make the impossible possible, it's not good enough or thankless or something. At least for now, I have literally nothing left to give, and am deeply depressed and under stimulated and anxiety ridden.~~

~~So, "how did I survive?"~~

~~Mmm, poorly. Not sure I was even surviving before that.~~

~~What do you mean, survive?~~

~~What does it mean to survive?~~

I'm broken.

[-] Jourei@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Somehow I get a similar energy like "young people's work week should be 6 days" /lh

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Oh, you get to keep your same yearly pay inflation adjusted, But you work one less day per week every two decades.

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