Finally American competition for 30 y/o Japanese mini trucks.
I want a Kei truck so bad. Problem is I don't really need a truck for anything, so I'm not gonna buy one just to drive around in, I just think they're neat.
Chevy S10, Ford Courier, Dodge Dakota, GMC S15 . . .
. . . wait, half those are Japanese.
It's owned by bezos.
I get cutting the infotainment crap, but not even am AM/FM radio with a couple of speakers? That would barely add anything to the cost.
2 speakers, amp and an aux
Strap a $20 Bluetooth speaker to the dash.
Killed by a $20 missile in a wreck lol.
Basically everyone has a bluetooth speaker and phone to go with it already.
I would much rather use that than am/fm radio tbh
Speak for yourself. I don't have a portable speaker because I have no need for one. I'd prefer a Bluetooth system in the vehicle, but at least something to have some tunes while driving would be easy to include.
I think the truck is setup you can buy and I stall your own.
Which I like cuz then I'm not tightly coupled to whatever shitty infotainment system the manufacturer baked in
Instead I can buy an aftermarket stereo if I desire, and pick out a good popular one that is well reviewed by enthusiasts.
I actually think it's better to go all in and eliminate it completely. More aftermarket options.
If they included mounting and made it easy to mount your own speakers sure.
I am pretty sure there is a law requiring radios for emergency purposes.
Maybe they got an exemption?
Honestly, this is probably the EV truck I am looking for.
I don't live on a farm anymore but I still like to haul manure and mulch every year for my backyard garden, I need to haul wood for my wood working projects, and I don't feel like paying 80K for a POS suburban penis enhancer that can't haul shit.
I can deal with no stereo but damn that's sparse even for me.
Not saying you're not sensible. This is a genuine question. The number of trucks I saw when I visited the US (twice) was insane. Wouldn't a trailer fulfill the same needs at a much lower price while being much more flexible in day to day use?
No, a trailer does not fit my use case.
Not really, no. When one or two of the legs of your daily commute requires bulk cargo handling, the added issue of "hitch up the trailer. Wait, where is the trailer? Okay, drive there, hitch it up, pull it here, then we'll go there. Maybe get gas before you get the trailer because it's a pain in the ass to do the gas station with a trailer hitched." Yeah no.
There is a very good reason we have tried to put basically every type of audio system in a car at least once. Driving in silence all the time fuckin sucks donkey balls, and bring-your-own phone/ speaker is a garbage solution, even for a truck that's barely more than a harbor freight special.
Otherwise, this is a pretty sick idea, and it might help solve some of the other more important problems the automotive industry has been having.
I've installed a very good audio system in my car for $200, there's no way an extra $500 or so on top of the $20k was breaking the bank for consumers or the company. Really weird concession to make.
Honestly, $20k for something this barebones is reaaallly pushing it. The more I think about it, the more it feels like an $80 remaster of a 35 year old game with half the dlc missing. Maybe for $12-15k and a basic am/fm, and I'd be less irked.
I had the same primary objection lol, you can leave the thing with a very minimal radio + speakers and thereby leave room for the buyer to add stuff themselves. But including zero inbuilt stereo at all just makes for a big project to have a normal-feeling ride. Solid yes from me until that, and then a definite no.
I would pay extra to have "features" removed from modern cars.
Doesn't that just mean the already rich assholes win?
You should pay for what your actually getting. If the vehicle has fewer features and less complexity, then it is necessarily cheaper and easier to produce (Both in mechanical and human labour.), and therefore the final product should also cost less for the consumer. Any dollar amount above that is used to improve the product in some way. Or, much more likely in this case, considering Bozo's involvement, is used to line the bloated pockets of executive clowns with more imaginary money than any human being can ever possibly conceive of spending ethically.
500 here 500 there. If the goal was to sell for sub 20k then…
Why can't techbros just be normal? WHY YOU MUST DISRUPT EVERY TIME JUST BE NORMAL!!1
This is why China is winning.
Further investigation shows Bezos to be backing the company. While it isn't Musk and he isn't in charge, I'm leery of this billionaire association.
You need someone with deep pockets to get a production line up and running. If not a tech titan it would just be a billionaire banker.
I love this idea. It seems like it was designed for function and use over flash. If I needed something for occasional hauling and work on a property I would get this. I also see it as a "work truck" that businesses buy in bulk to keep the costs down. I would add in a radio and I love the lack of touchscreen
It's owned by bezos.
aww damn, was grtting excited about this :(
Almost everything is owned by a billionaire or has the company invested by one. I am not going to buy it because I don't need it
If they can scale this, it could be revolutionary. A perfect commuter and utility vehicle at a low price could capture a ton of share.
The addition of customization options and intention to have customers wrap their vehicle is utterly brilliant as well - I will be looking forward to hearing more!
Add a couple feet to that bed and you have yourself a sale...
Keep your kinks to yourself please
Wow it uses crank powered windows in this day and age. The only real concern (besides the missing stereo) is if it spies on its owners like pretty much all other car manufacturers.
Manual windows with cranks? Do you also have to hold the door handle up when you close it so it stays locked?
If there is spy/telemetry nonsense, I cannot see why it cannot be wrenched out of the car.
Most people don't remove their telemetry devices from their cars because they would lose functionality. This car has no functionality to lose.
If the telemetry is integrated with the car's main controller, I'm optimistic someone can crack it.
I wonder if I can run Doom.
I've seen compact pickups with 8 foot beds. That doesn't look like an 8 foot bed. I'm strongly doubting that's what the thing is going to look like.
I have always wanted a truck to take care of the DIY stuff and the lawn stuff. I have never like the giant ass trucks that are overkill for my use or a status symbol.
This seems like the right pick for me. Or else I need to get an old used one that I can’t be sure will last. Looking forward to what comes of this.
Perfect. Now make this 20 years ago....
That said, I'd buy one.
if Trump is pledging to kill the federal EV incentive and this truck is an answer to it then the article should provide the price without incentives. But even if it’s just under $20,000 with incentives, I still feel like it’s unfortunately paying more for less at the moment. Although if there’s tariffs, it might actually be cheaper than literally anything else you could get so in that situation, why not?
the vehicle is absolutely wonderful.
it's almost everything i'd want (and not want) in a 'car'.
Seems like a good upgrade from my 30-year-old Ford Ranger, if it's a 4x4. It's got about the same features, LOL
According to Car and Driver, it's only 2WD. Such a pity. I won't buy a 2x4 pickup. That's my only deal breaker with this truck. Everything else can be added/modded.
Reminds me of how they used to sell cj5 jeeps. Seats, doors, tops, heater, all optional.
Aw man. I really like CarPlay just for directions but otherwise this is my dream EV. Although I prefer a car or SUV form factor personally nothing against a truck.
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