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Portugal approaches Saab to purchase Gripen fighter jets following withdrawal from US F-35 program (armyrecognition.com)

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[-] Skunk@jlai.lu 12 points 1 day ago

Hey Switzerland have a look at that instead of saying "F-35 is the best plane in the world and the US administration said trust me bro I won’t fuck you"

[-] _LordMcNuggets_@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

seriously man, the VBS is slowly sinking into oblivion. remaining neutral and appeasing everyone doesn't work in the modern world, you have to pick sides, and last i checked we were still in europe...

[-] Skunk@jlai.lu 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

FFS I’m so annoyed at some of our federal counselors. Between all the Viola F-35 shit when France deal was amazing (basically, becoming besties with your neighbor).

The grey-blond milf defending Vance after his NATO speech and a few weeks ago we had some UDC/SVP fuckers saying Trump have some good ideas we should take inspiration from.

WTF? At least it’s good they don’t have that much power and we can vote them to oblivion, unless the population votes like shit… 🤦🏻

[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

[-] carbs@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Australia should too, although we already have bunch of the shitty F-35's, they are faulty by design, so maybe we can return them for a full refund.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

We told the french we didnt want their submarines too...

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

No, best to hang on to them. Usually you have to capture your enemy's planes to dissect, it's rare that they'll sell them to you

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago

I mean, it’s not that they’re faulty. It’s that they’re manufactured by a now overt gangster who may pull the plug, if there’s a plug to pull. And tbh I’d be a little surprised if they didn’t engineer a plug that can be pulled, independent of the physical logistics supply chain.

I repeat, as an American: do not trust our government, in any capacity. We are not your ally any more. I fucking hate that, but that doesn’t matter. Please. For the love of whatever god or honor or morals you hold dear: act accordingly. Do not be naive. Take this seriously. Save yourselves.

[-] vivendi@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago

Nah they're kinda shit actually

Like, it's only "cool" in the sense wünderwaffen is cool. Yet, wünderwaffen costed Nazis the war, and it's the same tale again

Sorry but this shit is riling up lost airframes to accidents without an active war and under perfect maintenance, I don't think it's going to hold steady in a war AT ALL

[-] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It is the most advanced fighter in the world, by far. The Saab jets aren't really close and would lose pretty much every simulated encounter with them by a few hundred miles.

But that doesn't make them good for the world. Still, their technical ability should be ignored only at your own peril. It's a stupid thing to not acknowledge the effectiveness of an enemy weapon. But it is now an enemy weapon for much of the world that were former allies.

[-] vivendi@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

I AM acknowledging the fact that they're advanced, however, just like thay French artillery system in Ukraine, you will often see "cool shit" wünderwaffen shit the bed in actual combat

Pavement princess vs. workhorse, tale as old as time

[-] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

That's fair

[-] Zwiebel@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Wunderwaffe without the ü :)

[-] nomorecids454@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 day ago

The people who just spent the last 20 years telling us we had no money for hospitals and trains are now spending billions in weapons.

Scumbags

[-] Tapionpoika@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

Finland should buy 4 Super Rafales and 60-80 Gripens, instead of 64 the US F35's.

[-] seeigel@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Project 2025 is from 2022, Finland joined NATO 2023. They are fully committed.

[-] Tapionpoika@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Yes I know. And Finns are not easily changing their ways. So 64 x F35 it is then.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

Canada should do the same!

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