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[-] honeynut@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Downvoted. This is how you get tankies in your movement. This is why they consistently show up to every fucking protest like they're welcome there. If we work with authoritarians to get rid of authoritarians, what's the point?

[-] Goldholz 7 points 1 month ago

Thats why tankies are quickly gaining control of every left movement. A left movement sadly always either gets taken over by tankies and then no one wants to do anything with them, respectfully, or they get "tamed" and turn into "social democrats" like the german SPD that holds left values only in writing but not in action

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

If you're going around complaining about "tankies taking over movements", then you already ARE one of those tamed social democrats

[-] Goldholz 5 points 1 month ago

Trust me i am not. I want to see nothing more than a world where capitalism is no more. Where anyone can do what they love to do without financial or social hurdles in their way. Capitalism is the source of 90% of our worldly problems.

I hate it being put into the same pot as tankies. Why tankies are bad, i dont have to elaborate on, do i?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Buddy, if you not only think that "tankie" is a meaningful political label, but that they're a powerful faction in the West that is taking over movements, you are the most tamed, housebroken socdem in the world.

Why tankies are bad, i dont have to elaborate on, do i?

Of course you don't; "tankies" are bad for the same reason that "pinkos" and "commies" are bad, they are all synonyms, after all.

[-] Goldholz 4 points 1 month ago

Ooooh i understand, to you anyone that calls for a violent revolution is a "tankie". And anyone that doesnt want a violent revolution is a "moderate social democrat". Did i get that right?

Then yes to you i am a social dem because i know that threw violence you only make yourself seem to be the enemy of peace, stability and democracy. Creating an easy enemy image to rally against. Thus creating a hard wall against anything that is pro workers. You know, litterly how the Red Scare.

But that isnt what a tankie is for me. For me a tankie is someone appologetic to and or denial of the horrible attrocities, undemocratic and dictatorial ways, supression and crushing demonstrations with force, imperialism, denying of freedom in all ways, speech, publication, travel and more, enrichement of them and their ruling class buddys on the exploitation of the workers, not caring about the workers and their lifes, and more, by mao's and current china, north korea, vietnam, soviet union and its puppet states (poland, east germany, romania, hungary, czechia, slovakia, slovenia, bulgaria, albania), yugoslavia, cuba and others.

And yes i saw you are from .ml, meaning you probably fall under that label too.

But you know what is even worse than people like tankies? People like you, discussing terminologie and hardening on political ideological labels and names rather than discussing and coming up with a long term solution to a problem.

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[-] rozlav 4 points 1 month ago

Any chance having source of this ? Thanks <3

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[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 4 points 1 month ago

Perfection is the enemy of progress

I keep hearing people say this meaning "We need to let Republicans kill trans people". It seems to be a thought terminating cliche to pull out against anyone further left than the speaker.

[-] erin 7 points 1 month ago

As a trans person, that absolutely isn't how I or other leftists in the spaces I'm in use this phrase. It means to avoid letting disagreement over method or end goal distract from a common cause. Just because a candidate doesn't run for my specific brand of leftism doesn't mean I won't support them over a neoliberal opponent.

[-] Aedis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago
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[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

"Imperfect Aliens" ok so only a "little" veiled racism is okay? Like in the good old days I guess.

[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 8 points 1 month ago

Allies = Aliens???

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