What do you mean it's only IPAs here?
Why there's also Double IPAs, triple IPAs, quad IPAs, Imperial IPAs, every kind of fruit-infused IPAs, hazy IPAs, seasonal IPAs, limited edition IPAs, New England style IPA, West Coast Style IPAs, wheat IPAs, rye IPAs, oat IPAs, Session IPAs, red IPAs, and non-alcoholic IPAs.
And if none of that appeals to you we also have a limited edition seasonal dry-hopped pils that according to the menu tastes like an IPA.
You forgot Black IPA's, which I unironically love and have an extremely difficult time finding compared to 5-10 years ago.
Most probably none of those are proper IPAs. The 'I' in IPA stands for India. IPA is only half-done, if it did not travel on a sailboat around the Africa from England to India.
IPA's are like someone took the worst part of beer and made it the only part of the beer.
Oh, no...I like IPAs...does this mean you guys are gonna make me go back to Reddit?
I'm afraid so. Enjoying an IPA is simply unconscionable in the Lemmy hive mind.
Seriously though, I like an IPA once in a while myself, I just wish the local store had a little more selection
Depends where you live. Areas with a smaller craft brew scene do end up with the "nothing but IPA" problem. But where I live in the PNW there's simply so damn many that even with 50% of them being IPA's, you still get a huge selection of other pilsners, stouts, amber ales, hefenweizens... its pretty nice.
About 10 years ago it was probably closer to 80% IPAs. It was a big joke here that IPA stands for I Pretend (I'm not an) Alcoholic.
The only reason there is more on the market now is because we all stopped pretending the taste of motor oil with grapefruit gave us a better buzz.
Even now, most breweries will only seem to offer 4 varieties of IPAs, a pilsner/lager and a stout. Maybe an Amber but I feel the Mac & Jack's copycat scene has mostly died out now.
I work for a brewery in Portland, and we'd like to make over varieties, but hazys and IPAs are what sell.
Nailed it.
"Welcome! We have 30 beers on tap."
And dark beers?
"We have this single India pale ale."
I've always liked IPAs, and I'm probably going to continue to, but the style is kinda beat. They're at a point now where they're just doing the most nitpicky variations on the theme. Dry-hopped rather than wet? That's a juicy IPA. Lactose back sweetening? Milkshake IPA. Ran out of finings and can't clarify your beer? It's not ruined, it's haaaaaazy. Strong enough to black you out after three? Double IPA. After two? Imperial IPA. No stronger than the American light lagers you used to steal from your dad? Session IPA.
The point of IPAs was that they were full of huge, bold flavor in a market that was saturated by beers that were competing with one another to taste the most like a vodka soda and have the lowest calories (and therefore ABV) possible. They were the revolutionary vanguard of beer that tasted like beer. But now I can get all sorts of wild shit. Fruit sours, coffee/chocolate stouts, real pilseners that actually taste like beer, proper copper lagers, all sorts of amazing stuff. The era of the IPA being the only "real beer" has ended. I wish someone would tell the breweries.
Man, all those "wild things" you mention have existed for ages here in Belgium. IPAs are pretty much the new kid on the block. Weird how different our cultures are.
cant relate. i love the International Phonetic Alphabet
Well, I also like Isopropyl Alcohol
OMG, I've quit so many homebrew clubs because of their unnatural fascination with hops, Hops, HOPS!!! Boil 'em, brew on 'em, back 'em in your taps... HOPSSS!!!!
If i wanted to feel like I've just been smacked in the face with a bag of fresh grass cuttings, I'm sure I could pay a guy.
One fucking guy was making hops extracts to DROPPER into his Hazy New England IPA so there was a fucking green oil slick on top. I quit on the spot, got up and walked out.
Reference brewing in to US is a lost art. Present a Kölsch or a Maibock in spec and they shit on you because its too sweet, but if you just make it an Imperial with more hops..?
Ptui.
Can't a man get a sour or two? Maybe some regional cider, if it's not too much to ask?
Meanwhile, in France, wine consumption is down due to craft beers to the point the government is going to spend 200 millions to prevent market crash.
Not being a beer drinker I have to ask: why the IPA craze? Aren't lagers, stouts and whatever other beers an option for crafters?
IPAs are still riding a popularity high in the US. It's easy to make, you don't have to be as precise and careful with your beer when you make them, the hops will hide your mistakes. Sign of a bad brewery, is they only sell IPAs. Currently in the US, IPAs are the top selling style, unfortunately. Saisons are so much better, for example.
Saisons aren't better. All taste is subjective. If I never get served another "bubblegummy with hint of white pepper, barnyard and Meyer lemon" I'll be happy
The IPA bros are annoying, but the "over it" pilsner and saison snobs aren't much better.
Basically, despite all the vocal complaints, IPAs sell better.
I enjoy IPAs personally but it does get frustrating when you want something different.
Some brewers can't help themselves. Even when they brew a style that would traditionally have low IBUs they bump it up by about 10. Lagunitas totally messed with Newcastle Brown Ale once they got their grubby hops-loving mitts on it.
Even more luck need if you dare like dark beer.
I guess I'll always have Guinness and negro modelo. but I crave variety.
At this point my taste buds are even burnt out on good IPAs (for those who accept such a premise as possible).
I'm lucky enough to see some good reds/stouts/etc come through a few times a year, but the ratio of IPA:Not is just ridiculous IMO.
Move to Sweden, here you can't buy a beer above 3.5% abv in a store. Anything above that you have to buy at the state owned liqueur store systembolaget. The upside is that they have a pretty good assortment. The store in my small town carry about 300 different beers. About a third is IPA.
I feel like this has changed a lot, actually. 8-10 years ago it was all IPAs, but now I can find all kinds of craft beer. Maybe it's more of a west coast thing. I currently enjoy grabbing new Pilseners when I see them.
I love IPAs. I t seems that the sour and gose fad is still going on, but IPAs are easy to produce and popular, so I don't think they're going anywhere anytime soon.
Or sours, gross
Ugh, I once made the mistake of not checking what I was ordering at a bar.
Sour pumpkin beer. I know that many people like sours, and I like some pumpkins, but together, I'm out.
It's almost Oktoberfest season! There will be lots of great non-IPA beers then!
milk stout, Belgian Ale, porter, or brown ale - excellent most of the year.
Wheat ale, white ale, whitbier are where it's at for thirst quenching in summer heat.
For those of us in New England - treehouse brewery, for the win!
I once home brewed for a wedding. 21 gallons of beer. One amber, one milk stout, one wheat, and one brown... and only one exploding bottle!
I just got into home brewing over the last year. The process is a lot easier than expected. You can yield about 5 gallons of beer for about $40, USD. The initial start up cost to get the gear wasn't unreasonable either.
As a long time homebrewer, I'll just warn everyone here. Don't get into the hobby thinking you'll save money. You won't.
Still missing c/beerporn on lemmy! Anyone interested in creating it? :)
As someone who doesn't drink beer, reading this thread feels like I'm trying to read Dutch: I definitely know some of these words, but the rest is a mystery.
I kinda thought all beer was made roughly the same with just different ingredients, now I'm falling down a deep Wikipedia rabbithole.
It gets nutty.
The Bavarian purity laws defined beer in that part of the world as something that can only have hops, water and wheat. German beers tend to be straightforward and balanced
Belgians had no such compunctions and some will put fruit and other stuff in their beers. Their beers are a bit more out there and yeast (clovey) forward. Lots of Belgian beers also add candy sugar that gets fermented off which is how you get some golden ales that don't have heavy bodies but have ABVs of 9% and up (Bud is 4% and wine stays around 15%)
British beers tend to be malt forward (ie, biscuity) ales. Legend has it that when the Brits shipped beer to their far off colonies that they over hopped the beer (hops are the bitter element that also acts as a preservative) the deployed soldiers came home and asked for the pale ales like they had grown to love in India and the IPA was born
Americans kind of picked and chose from a lot of the styles around the world and true to form made them bigger, bolder and borderline obnoxious. A lot of the hops being grown these days have been bred to taste certain ways which is why some IPAs taste like citrus or pine trees.
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There is a local brewery here in Alabama that makes a beer called “Sour-Pash”. Does it have a lot of alcohol? No. Hops? No. Is it fucking delicious and refreshing? You god damn right.
I love this beer, and it’s always sold out when I go to buy it.
