elbows up (lemmy.ca)

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[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 38 points 3 months ago

Petition for mods to ban AI-generated images.

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[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

OK, let's get something straight here: elbows up is originally a hockey term. Normally when you're checking someone, you have to keep your elbows down or else you'll get an elbowing penalty.

Elbows up essentially means "play dirty with intent to injure". If you had your elbows up, you'd have at least one hand on your stick, probably both. So this depiction of flexing arms makes no sense -- you'd never have your arms in that position. Where's their stick, even?

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

Thank you for this explanation. I’ve been wondering for a while

[-] AI_655321@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

Yeah, no. Elbows up is not a show of strength or a flex. Elbows up means fight dirty, It's not about showing off. Elbows up is about breaking their teeth with an unexpected precise hit. It's dirty It's rotten you take it out You put it away.

[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

I don't understand the posture you're describing. How is it fighting dirty to use your elbows in a fight? Or are you talking about preemptively elbowing somebody in the jaw during a struggle for the puck? Like a sucker punch but with an elbow...?

I thought elbows up was about positioning your elbows to occupy space while digging for the puck in the corner. I don't think it's about fighting dirty but about asserting your entitlement to space. "This puck is mine, you're going to have to go through me to get it" ...but I haven't played hockey in 25 years or so.

It's all a bit moot because if somebody twice your size corners you and demands your lunch money, it's not fighting dirty to use your elbows while trying to get away.

I don't think the graphics are great. I think they get the posture wrong. I think the slogan is more about determination than strength. I don't think Canadians should feel superior to Americans. But also I think it's gross to see someone insisting we ought to feel shame about the suggestion we should protect ourselves.

[-] AI_655321@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I also agree with your interpretation.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

The pose for elbows up is to put your elbows in front of you. It's a defensive pose for when you know a punch is coming, not for showing off your muscles.

[-] Kobek@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

This whole elbows up thing seems very gimmicky. Most of it is based on the dislike of Trump and not pride in our historical achievements. I'm not going to believe these people are patriotic until they start calling for the unboxing of our former Prime Ministers and oppose the renaming of historical parks, universities and roads.

[-] Justus@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

It’s about standing up when someone picks a fight with you. It’s not turtling or capitulating.

It’s not throwing punches to escalate, it being aggressively defensive though. It we get into a tussle, you’re not coming away unscathed, you’re going to take an elbow to the chin.

Sure it’s about trump. He’s the one attacking, who we have to defend against. I’m guessing you’re not a hockey player. Maybe the context doesn’t make sense to you.

I have no idea what renaming anything would have to do with this concept

[-] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 3 points 3 months ago

you dont need to be lecturing on what elbows up means poser

[-] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Probably a sock puppet

[-] Kobek@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

I'm not talking about the terminology which I am quite aware of. I'm talking about a feigned nationalism based primarily around foreign issues with an underlying dependence on US trade.

True patriots and nationalists, and yes there are plenty, don't see this as a fight. They see it as a disappointing loss for the United States. The real "fight" is unfortunately with our own government and their capitulation to a global sense of political subversion that erodes history and establishes ideology as a national identity.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

While I don't disagree with the essence of your point, keep in mind that "no true Scotsman" is a common thought fallacy, in this case, "no true patriot or nationalist". You can't speak for everyone.

Patriotism is a complex topic, but I think we can all agree that, for example, companies weaseling themselves into the Canadian market under the guise of patriotism is not okay. Intention matters.