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[-] Kobek@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

This whole elbows up thing seems very gimmicky. Most of it is based on the dislike of Trump and not pride in our historical achievements. I'm not going to believe these people are patriotic until they start calling for the unboxing of our former Prime Ministers and oppose the renaming of historical parks, universities and roads.

[-] Justus@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

It’s about standing up when someone picks a fight with you. It’s not turtling or capitulating.

It’s not throwing punches to escalate, it being aggressively defensive though. It we get into a tussle, you’re not coming away unscathed, you’re going to take an elbow to the chin.

Sure it’s about trump. He’s the one attacking, who we have to defend against. I’m guessing you’re not a hockey player. Maybe the context doesn’t make sense to you.

I have no idea what renaming anything would have to do with this concept

[-] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 3 points 3 months ago

you dont need to be lecturing on what elbows up means poser

[-] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Probably a sock puppet

[-] Kobek@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

I'm not talking about the terminology which I am quite aware of. I'm talking about a feigned nationalism based primarily around foreign issues with an underlying dependence on US trade.

True patriots and nationalists, and yes there are plenty, don't see this as a fight. They see it as a disappointing loss for the United States. The real "fight" is unfortunately with our own government and their capitulation to a global sense of political subversion that erodes history and establishes ideology as a national identity.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

While I don't disagree with the essence of your point, keep in mind that "no true Scotsman" is a common thought fallacy, in this case, "no true patriot or nationalist". You can't speak for everyone.

Patriotism is a complex topic, but I think we can all agree that, for example, companies weaseling themselves into the Canadian market under the guise of patriotism is not okay. Intention matters.