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[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 231 points 4 weeks ago

Apparently it’s difficult to grasp that price increases when thing get more expensive.

[-] drolex@sopuli.xyz 180 points 4 weeks ago

But why? Is it because of Biden? Please don't explain it to me.

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 106 points 4 weeks ago

It’s because of Hunter Biden’s laptop

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 56 points 4 weeks ago

The catch is that the ones who don't understand always, ALWAYS think it's the other country that pays the tariff. Every time.

[-] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 54 points 4 weeks ago

The dumb thing is that it doesn't matter who pays the tariff, it still will get passed to the consumer. Consider a scenario where the government starts taxing Amazon $100 per order no matter what's in it. If you buy a $10 item on Amazon, how are they going to pay the $100 tax on that? Amazon will just add a $100 tax fee to your order because they can't keep running a business if that cost isn't baked into the final price. It doesn't matter who actually delivers money to the government, the tax gets paid by all parties involved.

FYI, sales tax is already done this way. Sales tax is collected from businesses, not customers, but customers still pay sales tax because that's just how economics works.

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago

Right, you and I get that, my point is that the people who are confused why their tariff-impacted goods cost more don't get that. They think the other country pays it, full stop.

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 186 points 4 weeks ago

You all are snowflakes but please explain this to me without triggering me

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 83 points 4 weeks ago

This is MY safe space and you can't come in!

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 148 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Your president is an idiot that is why your being charged more MAGAt.

[-] nepenthes@feddit.it 111 points 4 weeks ago

You're no longer his friend

[-] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 62 points 4 weeks ago

And nothing of value was lost.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 113 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I would be short and concise, and just for this person add a sprinkle of personal responsibility:

Trump taxed you because you bought something un-American.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 37 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The extension:-

This costs more because you have to pay off Trump as it contains something un-American.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 99 points 4 weeks ago

They STILL don't get it? Everyone has been yelling about exactly what would happen. The news, social media, people protesting in the streets... even Fox News is critical of the Tariffs now. Journalists are bringing it up at White House press conferences and getting reaponses from the Press Secretary. This is not a secret. What sort of social bubble/echo chamber, do these people live in? Just fully bought in to the kool-aid. Useful idiots, the lot of them!

[-] Zink@programming.dev 57 points 4 weeks ago

They have been conditioned to believe that the mainstream media is evil and constantly lies to them in order to facilitate the woke communist takeover and destruction of the USA.

So it would be an understatement to say they are working from a position of willful ignorance.

[-] DontMakeMoreBabies@piefed.social 55 points 4 weeks ago

People are incredibly stupid.

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[-] Lemgen@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago

Social bubbles/echo chambers is exactly what has created this. Why did Musk buy X and Trump created his own social media?

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 82 points 4 weeks ago

See, the trick is that calling it a tariff hides the fact it's an IMPORT TAX, paid by the people within the IMPORTING COUNTRY

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[-] Darkard@lemmy.world 82 points 4 weeks ago
[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 84 points 4 weeks ago

Sorry, Copium is produced mostly in china, im gonna have to hit you with a tarriff surcharge

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[-] El_Azulito@lemmy.world 63 points 4 weeks ago

If an entire cult is too fucking stupid to recognize what’s hurting them, then how the fuck could tariffs be MAGA’s death knell like some people are saying? You could literally douse some of these people in gasoline and tell them, ‘I need you to burn for just a couple seconds for Trump,’ and they’d fucking do it.

I saw some asshole in an interview saying, “Sometimes you gotta walk through the fire first.”

Like…Yeah? Maybe. Just don’t start by lighting yourself the fuck on fire. 😕🔫

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[-] derry@midwest.social 60 points 4 weeks ago

Why is it always my president or not my president with these people? It's not a sporting event, there are teams but not the ones they're thinking of

[-] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago

Its right up there with the bumper stickers I saw that said "I want MY country back!"

Guess the race, gender and age of the driver of that car - Bonus points to guess the type and design on the cap they were wearing.

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[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago

Politics is football teams for them. It doesn’t matter what is being done, it’s about who is doing it.

They believed that Obama would try to become a dictator because they assume that others think the same way they do. The goal is for your team to dominate and win, and you assume that the other team is playing the same way. Big part of why “every accusation is a projection.”

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[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 57 points 4 weeks ago

Tariffs are paid by the company that imports foreign-made goods to the government. To make up for that expense, they charge the retailer the same amount; and to make up for that expense, the retailer charges the customer the same (or a higher) amount added to the item's price. (at least as I understand it)

If OOP is "100% Trump!", they should be very, extremely happy about paying into THEIR President's pockets.

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[-] frazw@lemmy.world 56 points 4 weeks ago

Trump has said that other countries are ripping off the USA which creates the impression that foreign companies are selling goods far higher than they are worth. That means that people who believe Trump likely think that the foreign companies have enough margin to soak up the tariff, I.e. Pay it themselves, in order to keep doing business. Then the ripping off stops and those foreign countries just grumble that their gravy train is over.

In reality, they are not and never were ripping off the USA in the way that is being suggested. Republicans seem to have forgotten that the market forces they used to talk about being so important have put a downward pressure on prices to some extent have prevented price gouging wherever there is competition and no collusion. Even when the goods come from overseas.

Now due to the tariffs, the cost of doing business with the USA went up. So if they want to keep selling products in the USA, they need to cover the cost of the tariff, and the only way to do that and stay in business is to pass the tariff on by increasing their price to the customer. They can still sell that product outside the USA at its original price but they may choose to increase those due to reduced volume sold over all since the USA will likely buy less.

By labelling the surcharge for the tariff they are simply highlighting the reason for the increase in price. As they should. I fear though that posts like this show that even when the reason for increased pricing is made clear, people will still choose their reality and not believe or understand the causes and motivations.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 40 points 4 weeks ago

The cost doesn’t increase to the foreign company. The cost increases to the importer here in the USA. The foreign companies don’t see that money (the IRS cannot audit China lol we have no jurisdiction over other sovereign nations), it’s paid by Americans TO America.

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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 56 points 4 weeks ago

What's annoying and nobody seems to grasp is that even if the tax was on the foreign producer instead of the domestic consumer, the end result would be the same thing. They wouldn't just eat the cost lol.

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[-] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 51 points 4 weeks ago

Because it's very hard to search online for "how tariffs work". This is why Trump got elected, because idiots like this who have no capacity to fact check things voted for him, no questions asked.

To make answer short, YOU pay the tariffs dummy. You do!

[-] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 31 points 4 weeks ago

DID YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH?

I DID MY RESEARCH.

GO DO YOUR RESEARCH.

OH MY RESEARCH IS BETTER THAN YOUR RESEARCH THAT'S WHY.

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[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 47 points 4 weeks ago

I'm impressed they are line iteming it for you.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 47 points 4 weeks ago

I absolutely would. Make it clear that you aren't just arbitrarily raising prices, that there is a cause, and exactly what that cause is so that people are pissed about it but at the right people.

[-] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 weeks ago

I'm seeing more companies making it a "tariff surcharge" right before the tax line item.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 25 points 4 weeks ago

When there tariffs change every time Trump goes into Twitter, i would expect them line itemized and with a timestamp.

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[-] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 42 points 4 weeks ago

A tariff is a tax on foreign goods, paid by the consumer.

IT. IS. A TAX

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[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 39 points 4 weeks ago

People still don't know?! Lmao. How stupid can you be?

[-] jabeez@lemmy.today 33 points 4 weeks ago

Very. Very, very stupid.

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[-] notsure@fedia.io 39 points 4 weeks ago

....for millenia there has been an axiom, a truism, if you will, that has persisted among the many, and applied to very few..."you cannot fix stupid"

[-] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 37 points 4 weeks ago

Oh no not YOUR president! 🙄

[-] pachrist@lemmy.world 33 points 4 weeks ago

Is it surprising that the people who thought Mexico would pay for a border wall also don't understand how tariffs work?

[-] digdilem@lemmy.ml 31 points 4 weeks ago

You can't explain it to them. Not even by using toy cars or gobstoppers.

"There's none so deaf as those who will not listen"

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[-] 60d@lemmy.ca 30 points 4 weeks ago

If he's 100% Trump, the Trump tariff is $100. Simple.

Tell him to buy $23 worth of $TRUMP coin or he'll be deported for ripping off his lord and saviour.

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[-] misteloct@lemmy.world 29 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Easy, according to Republicans 2+2=5, therefore your regular bill of $100 is actually $177 now. It's not a surcharge, they're literally the same number so the math checks out. Just enjoy your life, have more kids, and don't worry too much about politics, Trump has you covered.

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 28 points 4 weeks ago
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[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 26 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Ok, ok. Trump absolutely loves you just as much as you love him, double if you're uneducated. He told all of the businesses that they should lose money on sales and go out of business instead of raising prices. It's those businesses who are assholes. They haven't even started manufacturing in US, and hiring white Americans to make t shirts yet, and its been a whole week! If you support Trump, then boycott businesses who pass on tariff costs, because they just don't love you/America as much as he does.

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 24 points 4 weeks ago

What's to explain? You got lied to by a liar who says he never lies, and you believed him.

It's like complaining that you didn't realize the Leopard you elected would have spots, when he's ALWAYS had spots.

[-] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 24 points 4 weeks ago

I always try to bring it back something they can relate to.

You know how when you go to some small mom and pop shop, and they charge you a small % to use a credit card, or give you a discount for using cash? Its the same principle. The credit card companies charge them a fee, and they dont want to (or cant afford to pay it), so they make you pay it. Tarrifs are the same. Either you pay the fee via surcharge, or your cost of the product went up to pay the fee

[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago

Just cultist things.

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