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[-] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 211 points 6 days ago

Good luck getting all the materials needed for that now that China has stopped exports to the US.

IPhone 17:

Brick phone

[-] besselj@lemmy.ca 154 points 6 days ago

Physical keys and what looks like a headphone jack? Seems like an upgrade

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 103 points 6 days ago
[-] JordanZ@lemmy.world 54 points 6 days ago
[-] mjhelto@lemm.ee 25 points 6 days ago

I've seen M.A.S.H.. You can just crank the handle a few times to charge it!

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Only $4000 for the entry model. That's how much it costs once the tariffs on the semiconductors that you simply cannot produce in the country for at least 10 more years even if you tried has been covered, the salaries high enough to motivate people to willingly work the assembly lines now that immigrant workers are gone, and the markup needed to cover the cost of completely creating an entire supply chain from scratch as well as paying back the insane debt that results from the outrageous high risk investments this would require and that frankly no investor would want to touch with a 10 foot pole.

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[-] singletona@lemmy.world 163 points 6 days ago

I'm genuinely surprised Trump killed the CHIPS act, when he could've let that roll through and taken credit for it as the whole POINT of that was to improve US manufacturing.

Also reintroduce the build back better with whatever re-branding.

If he were truly interested in american manufacturing he'd have gone all in on these.

But no. he wants company owners and worldl eaders to come to him and beg for exemptions.

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 56 points 6 days ago

He wants to get rid of everything associated with bEYEden and also wants to stick it to CHAIna.

[-] IonAddis@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago

I'm not surprised.

The name of the game here is to destroy America, not build it up. (Russia wants a USSR-style fall of America. The Cold War never ended for them.) And Trump wants to stay out of jail. Everything you see Trump or his admin doing can be attributed to those two things. Destroying America, or keeping himself out of Jail.

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[-] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 6 days ago

Trump is a personality cult. It's not rational and whatever. It's about him and always has been.

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[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Don't be so negative. By 2035, a 2500 dollar us made iPhone might be possible.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Because of the child laborers making 85 cents an hour?

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They are promising to gut the CHIPS Act which would be needed to even think about doing this.

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago

Can't have a Biden law. Biden introduced that so it must be bad for the US.

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[-] nthavoc@lemmy.today 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Apple tried this in the past. Who knew making special little screws was way more expensive to make in the US. Kind of sucks when you outsource all of your manufacturing ...

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 59 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Its looking more and more like the end result is just going to be millions of Americans will have to do without, Live with less.

and no doubt at the same time their oligarch fantasy-wealthy overlords will preach to them about Spartan values or something. Ultranationalist Jingo Ghouls will talk about how its tough times create strong men, or about how we all have to prepare for war with China or something.

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[-] Famko@lemmy.world 73 points 6 days ago

Instead of Vietnamese children making t-shirts to sell to the USA, they want American children to make t-shirts to sell to Vietnam.

This makes absolutely no fucking sense even from a nationalistic standpoint.

[-] Rob1992@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

Nah man, they'll start using the prisons for more then menial labor. You don't have to pay them at all

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[-] Hismama@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago

Maybe if wages actually rose with productivity, Americans could actually afford goods made within the United States.

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[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 83 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

not to mention one of the reasons we eagerly off-shored electronics fabrication in the first place is because it’s a toxic nightmare

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[-] rockhard@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago

They already tried "made in America" Apple products and they did not sell! Americans don't want to pay $5K for an iPhone when they can pay 80% less for one made in China.

[-] n_emoo@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago

Ok but what if they cannot pay 80% less for one made in China?

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[-] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Just ask AI to do it for you

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 days ago

They'll slash wages and say it's because of AI, and it is. But not because AI actually makes the process any more efficient, but just that it's a good excuse to slash wages.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 32 points 5 days ago

Why? All those kids are going to need something to do after they tear down the education system.

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[-] benjhm@sopuli.xyz 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

As a global company, Apple could just re-establish itself in europe, e.g. Ireland, and continue trading with China, they can just put the US on hold for a couple of years.
Meanwhile for those who really addicted to istuff, coyotes can smuggle iphones across the border, so maybe this solves the fentanyl 'issue'.

[-] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

The people addicted to apple products will just buy it even with a 100%+ tariff. To them it's a status thing.

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[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

iPhone about to cost $5000

iPhone 17: Patriots-Only Edition

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

The Trump base will blame Obama/Biden/Clinton, I guarantee it.

It must be so freeing to live a life more divorced from logic or reality than an indoor dog.

Maybe eliminating natural selection was a mistake.

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[-] smokingpistol@lemm.ee 30 points 5 days ago

This guy just spews his bullshit, Would it be nice if they could be made in United States? Yeah sure but the thing is an iPhone would cost like $3500. And I know damn straight I’m not paying that much for a phone. And I’m pretty sure you guys wouldn’t either and that’s coming from someone that sometimes makes some stupid financial decisions and that is not one I would make

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

If Apple didn't try to make 400% markup on their underpowered trash, it would probably just cost what it costs now. Except the child slave labor part would go away.

[-] Belgdore@lemm.ee 21 points 5 days ago

Except the child slave labor part would go away.

That’s the neat part, the republicans are trying to repeal child labor laws.

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

underpowered trash

I hate to say it, but it's actually quite powerful trash that they produce.

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[-] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 49 points 6 days ago

people screwing in little, little screws

it’s going to be automated

Sure that's not automated yet?

[-] besselj@lemmy.ca 36 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Everything's computer!

[-] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 32 points 6 days ago

Nope, I've long worked in designing for North American electronics manufacturing, it's still manual. We just outsource as many of those sub assemblies as possible to cheaper countries and design things with as few fasteners as possible.

That really is the least of the worries, there just isn't the manufacturing infrastructure for all the raw material and individual parts, manufacturing those parts just isn't feasible to do at a reasonable cost or schedule outside of Asia. China is still popular not due to cost, they are no longer cheapest, but because they have the infrastructure in place.

[-] MisterMoo@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago

Everyone playing along that this is some kind of genuine policy play are just buying into Trump as a legitimate leader in a similar way to how MAGA-heads do. Trump does not give a fuck about American manufacturing, American jobs, onshoring, offshoring, none of that. It’s all a grift. He’s waiting for some kind of payoff here, be it in the form of countries giving in to bad deals for the Trump Organization or investing in Truth or $TRMP. In some cases he gets to be feted at state dinners and sign some watered down, meaningless “trade deal,” temporarily backfilling his deep insecurities. Enough of this and most of the tariffs evaporate.

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