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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 156 points 3 months ago

If you're trying to get lung cancer .... get lung cancer with style

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago

If you are going to get cancer, at least look cool.

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[-] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 27 points 3 months ago

Lung cancer or mystery disease/popcorn lung. You choose

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 45 points 3 months ago

Don't laugh .... my wife has pulmonary fibrosis ... it's basically a mysterious inflammation of the lungs with your immune system running haywire. No one knows what causes it or what triggered it ... all we know is that it is happening. They suspect it was originally a virus of some kind (this all started about three / four years before the pandemic). There is no cure, there is no remedy, there is no healing, there is no recovery. It only grows worse with time, spreads through the lungs and drowns you to death as you run out of healthy lung to breathe.

Take care of your lungs everyone.

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[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago

Nobody has gotten popcorn lung from vaping

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[-] entwine413@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago

Vaping isn't carcinogenic.

[-] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 3 months ago

Vaping is less carcinogenic than smoking by a significant degree but it is carcinogenic

Acrolein, a carcinogen, forms in small amounts from the breakdown of glycerin during heating

If a “dry hit” occurs the effect is worsened, acrolein forms in higher amounts, and formaldehyde (another carcinogen) can occur from the breakdown of both glycerin and propylene glycol

Vaping still leads to inflammation and oxidative stress in the lungs and long term use will almost certainly lead to irreversible damage

Harm reduction is important. Vaping is likely better than smoking but it is not yet clear whether that is the case. It is likely the case based on short term anecdotal data from people who have switched but this does not mean that long term use won’t create more severe lung issues over a period of 20-30 years. We don’t know.

In the meantime for further harm reduction to reduce risk you can vape with low temperatures as this mitigates much of the carcinogen risk, you can use reusable devices and frequently change coils and ensure the coil is saturated, and you can use a liquid that is free of flavorings as these present much of the “unknown” variables.

Or you can work to quit. It is challenging. I smoked and vaped, I know it is tremendously hard. But frankly these companies don’t deserve your money. They’re all fucking scumbags

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[-] vivendi@programming.dev 81 points 3 months ago

Oh yeah, even higher chance of cancer, what's not to love

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

certainly not the disgusting smell that's for sure

[-] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Don't be so sure about that one.

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 62 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

More research needs to be done, but all the evidence points to vaping being vastly safer than smoking. Of course, your lungs are meant to inhale air and nothing else, so neither is still the best option

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[-] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh come on, my guy. This is the perfect set-up. Do I need to make a sprog account just to follow you around and show you up?

"Stop smoking those!" the people said, as Timmy dragged away.

"You know those things'll kill you!" for the fourteenth time that day.

But Timmy's breaks were longer, since he took the habit on,

and now he was addicted, smoking cigs from dusk to dawn.

So, when a woman stopped and said "I know a better form,

you needn't even quit the stuff, nor need you fear the harm!"

poor Timmy went right down the street and filled his pockets full

of cartridges and flavored oils and other random bull.

He puffed away then on his vape, and brushed his fears aside,

But glycol soon accumulates, and Timmy fucking died.

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[-] idefix@sh.itjust.works 58 points 3 months ago

I'm 45+ and French. This seems very misleading as smoking has been declining a lot the past couple decades.

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[-] Goretantath@lemm.ee 45 points 3 months ago
[-] Laser@feddit.org 18 points 3 months ago

Not an option in France

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago

Hey look it's a person who's never been addicted to anything

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[-] PoPoP@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

i quit for a year and a half, then i made the conscious choice to get back on it because life is so utterly shit i might as well enjoy my vices

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 38 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I was recently in Europe. It's not even about health. Guys, stop it, you smell like shit.

[-] Rob1992@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

Ah yes Europe, the mythical country.

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 29 points 3 months ago

Europe is a geological region where most countries share a lot of cultural ties with each other, including the smoking culture.

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[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago

Are you seriously trying to argue that "europeans" isn't a valid characterization of a group of people with some common traits, you absolute muppet?

[-] diffusive@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As someone you would call “European” there are massive cultural, behavioural and religious differences in Europe.

Not the differences you imagine like NJ vs California vs Texas, much more

And you know what? It’s a good thing and nobody wants to change that. After centuries we even stopped having fun at each other.

Diversity is scientifically and provably good for creativity that in turn is good for everything humans do

In the case of smoking, you can go to an extreme (Berlin) where people smoke in the clubs (even if it is forbidden) to another extreme (Dublin) that is pretty much like US

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[-] syreus@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Potentially, they could have visited multiple countries. Or maybe they don't want to partially doxx themselves.

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[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 33 points 3 months ago

What the fuck is this comment section even? Is vape vs cig the new Star Trek vs Star Wars, where fans of either side congregate to tear into each other with enough vitriol to make both vape and cig look healthy in comparison?

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 months ago

Each new import batch from Reddit these days is lower quality :)

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[-] dechnically@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 months ago

reject modernity, embrace tradition

[-] CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 months ago

In my anecdotal experience, French people vape a shitload.

I had French coworkers who vaped nonstop in the Paris office. You could hear the click of the heating element every few minutes. I've also seen old French ladies ripping from huge tricked out vapes.

[-] PolarKraken@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago

The idea of elegant old French women doing sick vape tricks is just...really something.

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[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 22 points 3 months ago

Asshole, don't make me smell your shitty tobacco, Atleast vapes conceal the smell

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

i don't think highly of people who smoke but I think much less of people who think it's cool. at least if you're embarrassed and apologetic about it I will still consider you a person.

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[-] P1k1e@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Funny considering tobacco is a solid American good

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[-] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 months ago

You know what they say...

When in Paris,

Run away.

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