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[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago
[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 6 points 19 hours ago

It's less likely that than they don't want to pay the HDMI license fee.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

More likely they are worried that the US will limit the availability of HDMI and DP, like they tried with RISC-V, so they made their own.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago

Could be, though most of the "owners" are from Asian countries

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

With US orgs in their umbrellas so who knows what the orange wanker will do.

[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 day ago
[-] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 day ago

Please bro, just one more standard bro, power delivery and high bandwidth data bro, it’s all we need bro please!

[-] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Didn't we already do this? I SWEAR we already did this.

[-] alanjaow@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Just one more (data) lane, I promise brooooo

[-] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

Big camera sensors use dozens of LVDS lanes without issue, and have you seen PCI express?

[-] Auzy@aussie.zone 10 points 1 day ago

HDMI is hot garage.. still.. so, anything to get us off it would be great

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 16 points 1 day ago

Displayport already exists and is way better and less expensive. The plug shape is also way better, and doesn't have the annoying tendency to come slightly unplugged.

[-] GTG3000@programming.dev 2 points 22 hours ago

Now if only windows would stop reacting like I unplugged a DP monitor when it's powered down.

[-] Geodad@lemm.ee 2 points 20 hours ago

Easy fix: Switch to Linux.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Only my opinions are valid and there can be no other use-cases!"

But seriously... this is the reason there are multiple standards, I think it's quite obvious the situation is more complex than you think. If it was universally so easy and so much better, we'd all already be using it, but of course we are not.

[-] drosophila 3 points 21 hours ago

If it was universally so easy and so much better, we’d all already be using it

This is not how the world works.

[-] yuri@pawb.social 1 points 17 hours ago

and why isn’t everything usb-c yet?

[-] spartanatreyu@programming.dev 1 points 5 hours ago

display port cables are cheaper than usb-c cables that support display port

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Fuck. And we were finally down to just two standards...

Back to the days of S-Video, YPbPr Composite, Component, Scart, and RF, I suppose.

[-] bhamlin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

To be fair, scart was less of a standard for display, and more a pinout to carry most of that stuff. Scart is the least problematic of those in the list.

And largely the others weren't so much competing as they addressed failures in those before it. RF had limited bandwidth and required a carrier. Composite was the same as RF, but better due to not needing the carrier. S-video is the same with the color information separated for a clearer image. Component is better still by further separating color signals.

The issue with HDMI and displayport is that they are largely the same thing.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Good point on Scart. DVI(-I/-D) would have been a better example than that.

I agree that each was an incremental improvement, but with how long it took for each of them to establish dominance and supersede the older standard, they might as well have been competing.

I still remember buying my kid a Wii, and you had a pick of composite, component, or S-Video. And that was nearly half a decade after HDMI was created...

The issue with HDMI and displayport is that they are largely the same thing.

Unfortunately, yeah. If it were up to me, though, HDMI would be phased out. With the exception of Audio Return Channel, DisplayPort can do everything consumer HDMI can do with higher bandwidth and without being encumbered by royalties.

[-] bhamlin@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

If it were up to me, though, HDMI would be phased out.

I agree. But sadly, the media market has standardized on it so it's here for a while. So for as long as there are TVs, we will have HDMI until they move to a new one.

[-] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I dunno man, hdmi has 400 different cable standards and then microhdmi on top.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Don't forget miniHDMI!

To be "charitable" to HDMI, in its 23-year lifespan, it's only seen 6 major and 4 minor revisions. The minor revisions are way too frequent, but at least the newer cables are compatible with devices using the older HDMI standard.

To be uncharitable to HDMI cable manufacturers, the shitty ones are causing major problems for consumers, exasperating the problem of HDMI being inconsistently functional:

  • The maximum length of an HDMI 2.0 cable is 50 feet before signal degradation starts to cause problems in high bandwidth applications. You can find 100ft "HDMI 2.0" cables all over Amazon, and I guarantee they won't be able to do 4k120hz or 8k30hz without issues.

  • HDMI pin 18 is +5V power, which is barely ever used in cases where someone is connecting a source device directly to a sink device. Some manufacturers try to save on material costs by not including a wire for it and not mentioning that little omission. DisplayPort has the same issue. Guess what happens to devices when using a cable with the power pin connected and no protection for backfeeding? (Hint: an RMA. On that note, fuck Dell.)

  • Manufacturers selling cables without actually labeling the cable itself with the specification version. We all have a drawer of old HDMI cables, most of them won't work for an 8K TV, and half of those you'll only find out through trial and error.

I actually don't have as much of an issue with the mini/micro variants of the connectors themselves. It's pretty easy to find a passive adapter in most cases, and they mostly work fine as long as you aren't trying to feed 4K over long distances or high refresh rates through them.

[-] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

I didn’t come here to be educated! I’m here to be unreasonable!

[-] Davel23@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago
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