It pisses me off to no end when people conflate legitimate criticism of Democrats with tankie rhetoric. The Dems are complacent, listless, corrupt, and lazy. They refuse to stand up to the Republicans until it's too late or doesn't matter.

The people want progressive politics: universal healthcare, living wage, affordable housing, education, and food. We want a sustainable future and an end to corporate greed.

The donor class, superpacs, and other sources of dark money in politics are what keep nearly everyone corrupt. Its addictive.

I’m just punching right. Tell the Dems to stop standing there.

And it was the Dems who sued the socialist candidate off of the ballot in my state. Not the GOP. They occupy leftist space to prevent leftward movement, while Dems ally with the GOP to push through fascism.

6 months in and Liberals are still trying to blame their election loss on the left.

"Tankies" made no measurable difference in the 2024 election. There's next to none of them in the USA. Go ahead: ask real people in your offline life what a tankie is, and see if even one single person has even heard that word.

Unless, of course, you're just applying that word to anyone whos not a Republican that's criticizing the dems. Then I suppose you'll find "tankies" everywhere.

It feels like a word that's just being used to divide the left.

What a stupid post. Yeah it's progressives' fault mango Mussolini is POTUS /s. This is a talking point manufactured by MAGA handlers that some broadly Dem-supporting people choose to broadcast, now outside the US. This is a type of brainrot that undermines critical thinking, divides the left, and helps elect the right. Canada deserves better

The difference is we don't expect anything good from Republicans. We expect libs to at least try but they'd rather punch left than effectively govern.

Anyone that uses the term "Tankie" unironically to refer to people to the left of them and the Democratic party are not a part of the left.

It's always helpful to identify the liberals that are getting "scratched" though.

Current US: a neoliberal capitalist nightmare being ruined by CEOs

Your most intelligent American: This is definitely the socialists' fault

I'm punching to the right, it's not my fault the Dems are always standing there 🤷

If centrists wanted criticism of republicans, they could have done that more.

But then they might not have got the endorsement of dick cheney. establishment democrats punched left and embraced the right.

As always, point me towards someone supporting Trump on here and I promise I'll give them an earful. There just aren't a lot of them on here. If I spend less time arguing against voting for Trump it's for the same reason I don't spend much time on here arguing against puppy murdering - because most people already agree that murdering puppies/voting for Trump is bad.

Sorry for disrupting the circlejerk, I guess? Like yeah I guess we could spend all our time denouncing puppy murderers and complementing each other over being enlightened enough to recognize puppy murder as bad, but I'd really rather not.

Seriously blaming the tankies again? How bourgeoisie of you lol

If you want to blame something, blame the media. Both news and social media have completely sold out for profit. You CANNOT have a democracy if vast parts of your population is being misinformed. And this started with talk radio in rural areas many decades ago. And the democrats did nothing - because they are not left. Thanks for all the empty "Hope and Change" Obama!

So yeah, blame socialists all you want but their critique was valid.

You need a revolution or reformation. A massive change in who owns the means of communication to have a free press again that is not purely profit driven. Can you even imagine that? Is that something you would say? No. You'd rather blame and denigrate socialists and call them tankies. Look at the mass protests, it seems the libs aren't even calling for Trump to step down and demand new election lol. People would rather bow to unjust laws and simplistic principles than believe in democracy. Of course they are all being stage managed.

But this is just pathetic.

yeah the like 10 tankies in the US really threw that election...? The takes from people on lemmy are so fucking strange.

Oh no dems are not perfect let's Satan/Hitler win to teach them a lesson!

Like bruh try won't learn but let's get rid of Satan/Hitler first. And ill be first to turn on them.

tell me you don't actually talk to "tankies" without telling me you don't actually talk to "tankies".

I thought Democrats were better than Republicans because Democrats will at least listen. Why would I waste my time criticizing the side that doesn't listen.

This is just a meme designed to divide people who share common interests in opposing corruption and to turn them against each other instead.

Really..? I feel like all the tankie (tanky?) discourse I've personally seen has only had vile hatred to say about trump. (namely hexbear)

Republicans are always evil. They don't do anything good. Ever. They're a known quantity. That's what we expect of them.

We expect the Dems to be better. And they get the smoke when they fail at that. Cutting Corp taxes. Border crackdowns. Genocide. Those are things that should exclusively be the pervue of Republicans. If dems run to the right they will always lose because the right was so triggered by Obama that policy doesn't matter to them whatsoever. It's purely teamsport for them. You can't appeal to them in any way. They see a (D) and vote against that person. Dems would never lose another election if they went only as far left as Bernie Sanders. We would have a perpetually booming economy and a high standard of living. But even that is far too far for the DNC Services Corp. So we get a gameshow host and a car salesman destroying everything.

People criticize the dems because they hope the dems might listen.

We need a way to have our voices heard if you don't want us shouting and protesting.

To reduce infighting amongst the democrats, create official avenues for grievances and disagreements to be settled that can actually influence party platform and trajectory without tearing the movement apart.

Use the settling of our varied perspectives to bind us so that our unsettled disagreements don't tear us apart.

Yes it was the "slight corruption" that "tankies" are criticizing Dems for. Give me a break.

Americans are children who get abused by both parents but they think Mom is better because she hits them less.

Im an european socialist and thought tankies were a degoratory term for authoritarian communists. I did not think the few commies in the states mattered that much in your public debate. Or am misunderstanding everything about the meme?

As is tradition. In the Weimar Republic the communists were far too busy fighting the social democrats to put up any meaningful resistance against the Nazis.