For things like frozen nuggets? It's already just a breaded and deep fried protein paste at that point. Easy bar to clear and stay vegan.
I don’t see the appeal. If I want vegan fried snack food / street food I’m going for falafel, pakora, tempura, or even beer-battered onion rings. Fried chickpeas, fried plantain chips, potato chips, fried tofu skins, vegan fried spring rolls, blooming onions, fried wonton nachos topped with vegan pulled pork (made with jackfruit), vegan empanadas, vegan pizza rolls, …
The list goes on and on and on. There is so much better stuff to eat than highly processed nuggets. Even if you aren’t vegan, there are much better things to eat than chicken nuggets.
But I see it. I want this.
I am happy for you if you don't want chicken, but I like chicken and I want to eat it. If there is an alternative that tastes the same, I'm going to use that. If there's falafel as an alternative, I'm going with the chicken.
I do want chicken. Just not chicken nuggets which are made from mechanically separated chicken aka pink slime. If I’m having fried chicken, it’s gotta be whole muscle meat.
Don't even need to taste as good, I'll gobble up most vegan nuggets alternatives regardless.
"Taste tests prove these vegan meat brands do not taste as good as the real thing."
The secret is salt.
And fat. Vegan burger patties taste like heaven because of fat and salt.
Sure, if your definition of "meat" is frozen chicken nuggets or those sawdust & gristle pre-made burgers. I've tried all these meat alternatives and they're nothing like actual meat, both in taste and texture, and they come with the added bonus of being ultra processed.
Let's see the cloned meat. I'm really curious to see if that's any good.
What does “ultra processed” mean, in this context?
That they are made from heavily refined products such as pea protein as compared to non-processed foods like whole vegetables or minimally-processed like salads.
That, however, does not make them bad by itself - they are generally still healthier than other ultra-processed (junk) foods since they are not made to be addictive with a lot of salt, sugar, and fat.
You should watch this video. This shows how Impossible burger meat is made.
Nothing in it is what I would describe as “heavily refined” like you said. The “heaviest” refinement process they use is fermentation, like sauerkraut, beer, yogurt, etc. I don’t think anyone would describe sauerkraut as “ultra processed”.
Here are the ingredients:
Ingredients: Water, Soy Protein Concentrate, Sunflower Oil, Coconut Oil, 2% Or Less Of: Natural Flavors, Methylcellulose, Cultured Dextrose, Food Starch Modified, Yeast Extract, Dextrose, Soy Leghemoglobin, Salt, Vitamin E (Tocopherols), L-Tryptophan, Soy Protein Isolate,
Vitamins and Minerals: Zinc, Vitamins (B3, B1, B6, B2, and B12)
Contains: Soy
I'm a hardcore meat eater, and TBH, I would rather eat a vegetable, than something ultra-processed and vegetable adjacent.
the sheer amount of carnist misinformation in this thread is something else...
It really is something to behold. The animal agriculture propaganda did its work.
I already like how they will cost the same as meat, even though they are much cheaper to produce. /s
That's not how any of the products in the supermarket are priced though
if vegan is so fucking good, why are they trying to imitate meat all the time? If you want to taste meat, eat meat. If meat is offensive to you, then don't try to fucking create a meat taste
Many vegans were brought up in meat eating families before they started questioning it and going vegan because of moral reasons. It's not weird to miss the taste while refraining from eating the meat because of the belief that the life of an animal is more important than taste buds. And that's how this industry exists; to satisfy taste with respect for animals.
But continue hating if you want to.
Have you considered that maybe meat tastes good, but I don't want to kill and consume animals?
Because we want to keep our favourite foods. So many people say they don’t want to go vegan until they realize there are vegan alternatives to almost everything.
The vegan alternatives do not have animal abuse and environmental degradation.
Tastes good
I'm going to be pedantic here, because it's sometimes my favourite thing to be. But "Vegan Meat" is an oxymoron.
Meat is specifically defined as the flesh or edible parts of animals.
These aren't Vegan Meat brands, they're Meat Substitute brands.
Meat also refers to the edible nut part. Like the meat of a wallnut is inside the shell
No, vegan meat exists, because I use it in that way.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/meat
Meat is only specifically animals when in that context. Example: "let's get to the meat of the issue" is not referring to animal flesh, but the details of an issue. Not even food related.
Vegan meat is a fools errand, you end up making something that tastes like a processed mcnugget and has 10x the ingredients compared to just using animal meat. I would rather see (less processed) meat alternative foods that stand up on their own rather than trying to emulate the flavour and texture of meat :/
Believe or not people want the same taste without sacrificing animals and the environment.
You missed my point, vegan meat products don't mimic meat, they mimic unhealthy crap that already does not taste like meat. Time and resources would be much better spent manufacturing and marketing traditional vegan foods (literally everything other than meat analog) it a way that makes them easy and appealing as an alternative to meat not as a 1:1 replacement.
vegan meat products don’t mimic meat, they mimic unhealthy crap that already does not taste like meat.
You do not understand how far developed the plant-based alternatives scene is, they have so many things that taste like meat for example ribs.
Plant-based meats are actually healthier than their animal-derived counterparts.
A review of previous studies found that risk factors for heart disease, including total cholesterol, LDL cholesterol and body weight, improved when various animal-based meats were replaced with a substitute made from plants, according to the paper, published Wednesday in the Canadian Journal of Cardiology.
I disagree with you there as we should preserve all foods but make them all plant-based so we do not lose culture.
You can eat whole foods plant-based instead and prepare all your food at home.
These exist and you not knowing shows you never cared to wander into that isle of the supermarket
“Almost”
Lol, Impossible burgers and nuggets taste better than the real thing to me. The burgers’ mouth feel isn’t as good as the real thing, but the taste is better. And the nuggets both taste and feel better than the real thing.
I like not feeling disgusted about the cruelty. Really adds to the experience.
There’s that too. After seeing the way chickens are factory farmed, even if real nuggets tasted better than Impossible nuggets, I’d still go with Impossible. Luckily, Impossible’s are better, so it’s the easiest choice ever.
And I bet all of them are loaded with methylcellulose (a.k.a. nature's laxative) just like every other bullshit fake meat product.
I follow a vegan diet now, but grew up in the southern US around legit BBQ. There is no point trying to replicate that, never going to come close and it's just going to use shitty processed food techniques to accomplish it. If you're going to go vegan, how about actually be vegan instead of chasing a life you decided to leave behind.
I’ve been eating Impossible burgers and nuggets for years, and it’s never had a laxative effect. I think you might be assuming there’s a high enough dose to produce the effect, when there probably isn’t.
What’s wrong with being vegan but wanting a meat substitute? Does it make someone a worse person than you if they do that?
I’m not vegan, and I eat Impossible meats, because I try to eat less meat and they taste really good. Would it be better if I ate real meat instead? Because the way you’re talking, it sounds like that’s what you’d prefer.
Fake chicken > real chicken
Given how tasteless real chicken from the broiler varieties taste, I'm not surprised that something with a similar texture and the same spices tastes similarly. I had the misfortune to grow up around and eat colorful chicken and my brain still can't get over the taste of factory farmed poultry.
I found the same with beef, bland and flavourless, compared to moose my dad would hunt.
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