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5 MB hard drive in 1956 (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 34 points 3 days ago

In a similar sense, this is one of my favorite historical photos. A nuclear reactor delivered by steam locomotive!

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 53 points 3 days ago

Yes kids, before color TV was commonplace people would stand around and watch cargo get loaded for fun. It was a dark time in entertainment history.

[-] pneumatron@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

I was in Turkiye a couple years ago and there was a crowd watching a construction site. Then again, watching big machines work actually is fascinating.

[-] egonallanon@lemm.ee 27 points 3 days ago

Hey if someone told me I could go see the 2025 equivalent of this hard drive being unloaded if probably go take a look.

[-] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[-] recursiveInsurgent@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Someone please photoshop (or gimp) hundreds of people crowded around these fingers.

[-] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 2 points 3 days ago
[-] egonallanon@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

Server rack with a couple of PBs worth of drives in it would probably match the physical size. Or a massive tape archive storage.

[-] Lesrid@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago

This honestly just makes me wonder how chill a workday was if three whole buildings of office drones could empty into the streets to watch them load this for two hours.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

My brother in christ, you have no idea. The rise of the computer age and needing round the clock support for all that entails has really done a number on the working class. I am old enough to remember how chill work environments in the 80's and early 90's were. (Everyone smoking indoors sucked, though)

[-] Lesrid@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

I considered editing my comment to reference the rampant secondhand smoke.

But yeah I just interviewed for a position with an on-call rotation. I asked them about sleeping hours, and then I asked them about attendance expectations in the face of a midnight emergency. They just blinked at me.

Good luck to you man. I went through that for a long time but those days are behind me now.

[-] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

This was definitely true in the 80s where I grew up

[-] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

But of trivia about the first IBM hard drive: the heads weighed about 8g each and were glued to the actuator arms. The platters needed periodic cleaning, but the cleaning agent dissolved the glue holding the heads. The heads would break free from the arms and adhere to the platter. The rotation speed would accelerate the head outward, and the head would exit the housing with the approximate kinetic energy of a 9mm bullet.

[-] CreatingMachines@fedia.io 29 points 3 days ago

What would have happened if we just dropped a 20tb hard drive in front of the computer researchers of that time?

World war? Aliens? Or just trashed due to how advanced the tech in it would be to them? Yeah, I think the last.

[-] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 67 points 3 days ago

What would have happened if we just dropped a 20tb hard drive in front of the computer researchers of that time?

Nothing, they would have no idea what it was, or how to interface with it. They might even end up destroying it because they have no idea of the power requirements. Even if they managed to get it powered up and guessed at what it was for, they would still be stuck with the issue of not having an operating system which is capable of logically addressing all of the storage. And the lack of drivers would make that even harder.

A lot of modern technology sits atop a mountain of other modern technology which must be sorted out before you can even start to think about designing the end product. It could be that, since they knew what was possible, and had an example to crib off of, scientists and engineers could have gotten to that point faster. But, there is just an insane amount of prior tech in front of modern computers that any one piece of it, thrown back that far, would likely just be shiny junk.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago

One of my favorite things about what you are saying is modern transistor gates are smaller than microscope resolution at the time. Even if they could recognize an integrated circuit it would be another 10-20 years before they could even start to reverse engineer it.

[-] cageythree@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

Yeah that or aliens.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

The power requirements are printed right on the label tho…also they had x-rays back then too.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Printed circuit boards were becoming "commonplace" (according to Wikipedia) and the transistor had been invented about 9 years before, so they'd probably be able to figure out at least conceptually what they were looking at. In other words, it's not as if it would seem like a magical rock etched with runes or something, like it would if you showed it to somebody from 1556.

Therefore, I think they'd get out a microscope and oscilloscope and start trying to reverse-engineer it. Probably speed up the development of computer technology quite a bit, by giving them clues on what direction to go.

[-] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Therefore, I think they'd get out a microscope and oscilloscope and start trying to reverse-engineer it. Probably speed up the development of computer technology quite a bit, by giving them clues on what direction to go.

Knowing what something is doesn't necessarily teach people how it was made. No matter how much you examine a sheet of printed paper, someone with no conception of a laser printer would not be able to derive that much information about how something could have produced such precise, sharp text on a page. They'd be stuck thinking about movable metal type dipped in ink, not lasers burning powdered toner onto a page.

If you took a modern finFET chip from, say, the TSMC 5nm process nodes, and gave it to electrical engineers of 1995, they'd be really impressed with the physical three dimensional structure of the transistors. They could probably envision how computers make it possible to design those chips. But they'd had no conception of how to make EUV at wavelengths necessary to make the photolithography possible at those sizes. No amount of the examination of the chip itself will reveal the secrets of how it was made: very bright lasers pointed at an impossibly precise stream of liquid tin droplets against highly polished mirrors that focus that EUV radiation against the silicon and masks that make the 2-dimensional planar pattern, then advanced techniques for lining up 2-dimensional features into a three dimensional stack.

It's kinda like how we don't actually know how Roman concrete or Damascus steel was made. We can actually make better concrete and steel today, but we haven't been able to reverse engineer how they made those materials in ancient times.

You would be burned as a witch.

[-] UsefulInfoPlz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I way more than a duck though

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Do you weigh more than a duck with an anvil?

[-] nihilist_hippie@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago

From that, to 1 TB on a microSD the size of a fingernail. Impressive!

[-] atocci@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

It's doubled, we have 2 TB cards now

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 days ago

If random source is to be trusted, it cost $34,500 in 1957. You could lease it for $3,200/month. The 2TB card is $180 in 2025.

Adjusted for 2025:
2TB MicroSD: $180
5MB HDD: $398,852.50 or $36,995.01/month

Adjusted for 1957:
2TB MicroSD: $15.70
5MB HDD: $34,500 or $3,200/month

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

Imagine what a HDD of that size could store today.

[-] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 6 points 3 days ago

At least one call of duty game, sick!

[-] Karl@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago
[-] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 3 days ago
[-] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

No, just hard drives.

[-] lowleveldata@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

no fucking way

[-] tauren@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

That's a bold assumption.

[-] 000999@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

Estimate the volume of that box then calculate how many data centre grade HDDs would fit inside to get a rough idea

About 10 'AAA' game titles, I'd say.

[-] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

Not including their first update.

or one Call of Duty patch

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[-] Michal@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

At least 1 node_modules

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Look at that back form, my gosh.

[-] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

As you can see from the sign, hard drive parking had not yet been invented.

[-] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

The start up sound must've been legendary

[-] kruhmaster@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

That thing probably made worse grinding noises than The Mangler

[-] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

And now I have a phone capable of taking photos too large to be stored on that drive. Crazy how quickly technology can progress.

[-] merde@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Crazy how quickly technology can progress.

70 years is a long loooooooooooooooooong time for "technology"

[-] drosophila 1 points 3 days ago

It is nowadays, and it is in RF and digital electronics, but that's far from universal.

[-] sdcSpade@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

Back then, the prefix 'mega' still meant something.

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