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Summary

Russia was excluded from Trump’s sweeping tariff list due to existing U.S. sanctions that limit trade, White House officials claimed.

Despite lower trade volumes, countries like Syria were still included, prompting skepticism.

Trump has prioritized ending the war in Ukraine and threatened 50% tariffs on nations buying Russian oil. Russian state media framed the omission as sanctions-based, not favoritism, with some mocking Trump’s harsher stance on allies.

Ukraine, meanwhile, faces a 10% tariff despite the country’s strategic partnership with the U.S.

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[-] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 127 points 4 months ago

He certainly isn't trying to beat those "Russian asset" allegations is he?

[-] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg

Julius Rosenberg (May 12, 1918 – June 19, 1953) and Ethel Rosenberg (née Greenglass; September 28, 1915 – June 19, 1953) were an American married couple who were convicted of spying for the Soviet Union, including providing top-secret information about American radar, sonar, jet propulsion engines, and nuclear weapon designs. Convicted of espionage in 1951, they were executed by the federal government of the United States in 1953 using New York's state execution chamber in Sing Sing in Ossining,[1] New York

America used to have standards.

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago

Funny you bring up that couple, because the lack of standards has a through line here.

A man named Roy Cohn was the prosecutor, and he wheeled and dealed to make sure that both Rosenbergs got the death penalty, even if the evidence was a bit weak, especially the evidence against Ethel. Cohn got witnesses to change their story so that he could push to kill Ethel.

Cohn then went on to help Joseph McCarthy run the Red, and Lavender Scares.

And then, later still, Roy Cohn would tutor Donald Trump in the art of personally attacking anyone who tried to enforce the law against him.

The piece of shit finally died of HIV,

[-] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 months ago

TIL, thank you

[-] elvith@feddit.org 26 points 4 months ago

What? Comrade Krasnov? A Russian asset? Never!

[-] Flemmy@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago

And a whole nation's gotta take it in the behind for this. Classic king of the hill stuff.

[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 4 months ago

But uninhabited islands are

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 45 points 4 months ago

Uninhabited islands: tariffs

Allies: tariffs

Israel: believe it or not, tariffs

Russia: crickets

[-] ploot 42 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

All that time and money invested in agent Krasnov is really paying off.

[-] obinice@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago

Strange, what reason did the USA give for economically attacking all of their trading partners except Russia and Russia's close allies?

[-] gargolito@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago

The island populated by penguins has to pay tariffs but not Russia. Ok

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 26 points 4 months ago

It wasn't because of sanctions or not doing any trade with Russia, this bears repeating from the article:

However, nations with even less trade with the US - such as Syria, which exported $11m of products last year according to UN data quoted by Trading Economics - were on the list.

According to the Office of the US Trade Representative, the US imported goods from Russia worth $3.5bn (£2.7bn) in 2024. It mainly consisted of fertilisers, nuclear fuel and some metals, according to Trading Economics and Russian media.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

If I'm a politician and I'm putting tariffs in place, the one place getting annihilated by a 1,000% tariff is the place I've already sanctioned into the ground. Is that performative? Maybe. Would it prevent headlines like this? Yep.

Makes you wonder what's going on in the swamp.

[-] Nusm@yall.theatl.social 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Read all about it in this month’s riveting issue of Duh.

[-] Litebit@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

sanctions limits trade? but countries with hardly any trade with US are getting tariffs.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Lesotho - 50%, Saint Pierre & Miquelon - 50%.

But seriously, American consumers should say bye bye to cheap clothes, etc. as everything there is about to get a lot more expensive. The reality is that America was prospering in parts to all those third world countries. And it is kind of stupid to think that you can replace their products with local manufacturing as you lack both the skill set on the local work force nor the salary levels.

They also kicked all their immigrants who were working those shitty low paid jobs and I am sure as hell those employers are now struggling big time to find other people willing to do the same for the same pay.

[-] Litebit@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Interesting to see what would happen. Prices of goods in US will go up due to tariffs, similar locally made good will be expensive too due to local cost of manufacturing, labor.

Meanwhile consumer in the rest of the world are enjoying life buying cheap clothes and electronics made in SEA, China, s.america and etc.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago

Shocked I say. Shocked that Putin's puppet is not putting Tariffs on someone that is trying to take over another country.

[-] Wilco@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

Trump is a Russian loving traitor.

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

FFS people, sanctioned countries were not included. Somalia, Burkina Faso....also not included.

Let them deal in baseless conspiracy. Please deal in fact here.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago

However, nations with even less trade with the US - such as Syria, which exported $11m of products last year according to UN data quoted by Trading Economics - were on the list.

According to the Office of the US Trade Representative, the US imported goods from Russia worth $3.5bn (£2.7bn) in 2024. It mainly consisted of fertilisers, nuclear fuel and some metals, according to Trading Economics and Russian media.

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yep, it's fertilizer and related exempt at inputs. Prior to the war trade with Russian was closer to $30B.

The trade sanctions exist outside of tariff policy, so it's probably too complicated for ChatGPT (and therefore these clowns) to sort out easily.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

Let them deal in baseless conspiracy

so it's probably too complicated for ChatGPT

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

There's a possibility that someone used an LLM to formulate the tariff percentages. That's not baseless, there's evidence based on replication and similar language in the USTR site.

Which makes it a funny joke to suggest that they did the entire tariff plan top to bottom in ChatGPT.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

There's also a much stronger possibility that Trump simply didn't want to piss off Putin.

Why are you trying to find a more complicated answer?

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Less complicated is:

"Tariff rates go brrrrrr"

"But it's hard to add this to sanctioned countries because it involves doing work."

'Then don't, lol, FTW. Tell Grok to leave them out."

Grok and all appointees involved are idiots

"Here's a list of important places that need tariffs."

[-] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

And you're back to the "list was generated by AI" conspiracy.

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Well, this is an openly jokey theocratical comment, so yeah.

[-] drhodl@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Maybe the fertilizer president wants freedom of fertilizer?

[-] null@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 months ago

FFS people, sanctioned countries were not included

Iran and Syria were included.

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

And so were uninhabited islands. I'm not saying these people are geniuses. I'm saying that Grok probably said to skip sanctioned countries and they got that mostly right.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

Or, much more simply, Trump didn't want to make Putin mad.

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

So then why did Somalia or Burkina Faso not make the list? Does Putin care about them? Not really.

Occam's razor here is pretty easy to see as "Sanctioned counties, and we missed two."

[-] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

That wasn't a comprehensive list, just 2 off the jump.

So no, the simpler answer is that sanctions simply aren't a factor. They didn't list every country on the planet.

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Sure, whatever you need to believe with no evidence to support it. At least a 80% correlation with the sanctions list mes a touch of sense.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

Claiming that Trump is constantly kissing Putin's ass isn't a conspiracy. It's not even a secret...

Sure, whatever you need to believe with no evidence to support it

So where's your evidence that the list of countries was generated by AI?

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

There's a pretty comprehensive article on The Verge outlining the likelihood of it bring probable.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago
[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago
[-] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Lol the irony...

Of course I know what article you were talking about. Go ahead and read it again and then quote me where it says anything about generating a list of countries that somehow leaves out Russia.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

Did you read it yet?

[-] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

Come on, it's not that long. You must have seen how utterly wrong you are by now.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

Still waiting for you to admit you were wrong.

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

And wait more you shall ;)

[-] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

Right, because even though we both know you were wrong, you're too fragile to admit it.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Why? Isn't that the easiest lowest hanging fruit possible?

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

You know what other place has limited trace but still got hit with tariffs? Heard Island and Mcdonald Island since they are uninhabited.

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