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[-] zabadoh@ani.social 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

None of this would be a problem if Disney had made a good movie.

But Disney didn't.

Zegler is a talented young actress and singer, has had notable roles already, and will continue to have a great career.

Gal Godot has been a great Wonder Woman.

Both are good, regardless of what they post on social media.

The script, production and whole concept of this movie had far worse problems than Zegler and Godot.

Creepy dwarfs? Cheap looking plastic jewels? Boring script? Bad dance numbers? Bad music?

Were Zegler and Godot responsible for all of those?

Releasing the movie to influencers would NOT have helped the word-of-mouth. You have to make a good movie to begin with for that to work.

[-] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

They had the chance to adapt the original movie they were too scared to the first time. Make it r-rated or something. i don't understand who's the movie is for.

[-] zabadoh@ani.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Upon reflection, one of the concept mistakes was slavishly following the original plot.

The embellishments like the happy citizens, Evil Queen's love for cheap plastic jewels, apple pies, etc. just felt unnecessary and tacked on.

Disney already made Maleficent relatively recently in 2014 as a meta take on the original, so where could they go from there?

[-] WaitThisIsntReddit@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Zegler is a talented young actress and singer,

You don't find anything unusual about her acting? Every time I see her it feels like she's acting, no matter what it is. Movies, interviews, social media, any glimpse is uncanny. Obviously she is "acting" in all those, at least a little, but I get the impression it wouldn't change even in person. Real skin walker vibes. She creeps me out.

[-] zabadoh@ani.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There's a school of acting where you're supposed to more-or-less keep a blank face, and let the audience project emotions onto your protagonist. Richard Gere was famous for it. I want to say it's Method Acting, but that's not it.

It doesn't work if the writing doesn't work.

[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 3 weeks ago

The original movie was made very much with an audience from 100 years ago in mind. Boomers have nostalgia for it, so can’t change the script too much. Meanwhile, millennials are socially aware and see the problems with the story. Disney tried to make everyone happy, and generate a little bit of free press, and failed to make anyone happy.

This was a remake that should never have gotten off the ground.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 weeks ago

The controversy: It's a terrible movie wrapped up in an intentionally controversial blanket so there's an easy excuse when it flops.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 15 points 3 weeks ago

[off topic]

If you want a modern take on Snow White et al, here's the book for you.

The author takes all the Disney princesses and makes them evil. Snow White was so pale because she's a vampire. Cinderella is a witch who drives the poor Prince insane.

https://bookshop.org/p/books/red-as-blood-tales-of-the-sisters-grimmer-tanith-lee/14214058?ean=9781479447473&next=t

[-] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Honestly that sounds rad

[-] TheImpressiveX@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

The author's bio is remarkable...

She was named after an anceint Goddess. Then it gets weird...

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 15 points 2 weeks ago

Why is Hollywood hell bent on not creating original IP ever again? It seems like every movie is either a sequel, a reboot, a reimagining, etc. Does anyone just sit down and say "Hey, let's create a brand new story with new characters and new ideas!"

Could it be that we are tired of seeing the same old stories with some "controversial" changes and then months of press complaining about people wanting to see or not wanting to see it?

It couldn't be my imagination that in the 90s there were way less sequels/reboots.

[-] TheImpressiveX@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

Original movies are still being made, they're just not advertised as much as IP-based movies.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago

3 out of how many though?

[-] Aragaren@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

It isn't yourimagination.

What it really comes down to is risk. In the 90s, studios relied on the dvd release as a second boost to revenue so if a film didn't do well in theaters it had a back up.

With physical media all but gone the studios can only rely on theater revenue which has to be split with the theater itself.

Because of this, execs are sticking with successful old faithfuls rather than risking money on unprodictable new IP.

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think a bunch of ip copyright will be public domain soon, so they are squeezing the last bit of money out. All the original artists are probably dead, so they don't have to pay royalties. I dunno

I read that's why we have so many super hero movies. I'm guessing all this stuff got copyright protection in the fifties.

[-] some_dude@lemm.ee 13 points 3 weeks ago

With all the "news stories" on the "controversy" surrounding this movie, I figured it was all manufactured drama to get people talking about it enough to watch it. If that's true it's a damn shame this is where we are in pop culture that even genocide is being used as a box office draw.

[-] dditty@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

Apparently Gal Godot gives her worst performance yet as the Evil Stepmother.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

She really is the rare case of an actor getting progressively worse with every movie.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Is she getting worse or are more people aware she's always been bad?

[-] zabadoh@ani.social 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think in this case, Godot was miscast.

I understand any actress wanting to expand their range, particularly her wanting to be known anything else other than Wonder Woman. See Leonard Nimoy and his "I'm not Spock" phase.

Sometimes, you just gotta own it tho...

A friend who watched Snow White with me thought she was okay, but I didn't think she sold being EVIL enough.

[-] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

Don't mention the Palestinians in Hollywood, simple

[-] answersplease77@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Disney execs were like "You don't want an aparthied state to ethnically cleanse and bomb occupied people tents and burn and amputate children? How outragous of you! Anyway our movies are focused on spreading joy to kids."

We have enriched these billionares for too long. This fucking rotten disney empire deserves to parish from our lives forever.

[-] FridayMike@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

She’s finished.

[-] Emmie@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Victory has many parents. Failure’s past is a sham

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Hey!, I can fix it! Hey, I can fix anything! Just ask it a question! Sometimes Hey, I hallucinate if drunk.

[-] rice@lemmy.org 1 points 3 weeks ago
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