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[-] CatpainTypo@lemmy.world 63 points 4 months ago

Go on France, fight the fascists. 😀

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 38 points 4 months ago

She isn't banned from running because she is fascist, but because she is corrupt.

[-] ploot 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That standard should still deal with plenty of the fascists, if consistently applied. Only the decent, honest, law-abiding fascists will slip through.

[-] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

woohoo no fascists then

[-] RichardDegenne@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

Be careful, you wrote the same word twice there.

[-] edel@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Go on... I don't like much all these populists/narcissistic/nationalists but first Poland's Lech Kaczyński dies in a airplane accident, Slovakia's Robert Fico gets shot, Romania's election gets cancelled and then the front runner banned, and then the second banned too (have any evidence been published?!). Duterte gets arrested in Manila and sent to the Hague (Philippines is not a ICC signatory).. I remember McAfee and Epstein suicides but miraculously cameras in prisons failed to work... and today in Spain the records from a spy working for the CIA that spied on Assange gets all deleted.... while in Spanish top authorities custody! I am not fan of these eccentric people, but you have to give it to them there is something in our "law and order" system that is "odd" to say the least... and us blindly clapping is worrisome.

[-] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

France continues to be the older sister that America fails to live up to.

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

If you’re contemplating whether this was a good move or not consider this:

Kremlin condemned this immediately.

So this is a good thing 👍🏻

[-] edel@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

Worry less about what Kremlin wants and what million of French now, like millions of Romanians, feel completely disfranchised. I don't know if Le Pen's ruling holds any water, (I know Romania's does not!), but I see corruption cases left and right everywhere but the only candidates that are suspended are the same type... anti-establishment ones with a high degree of making an impact. As I mentioned in other posts, I detest the Le Pens (father and daughter), but not their ability to listen to their voters.

[-] 2xar@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

They are not anti-estabilishment. They are pro russian/soviet estabilishment. They are trying to build soviet type dictatorships whit Putin's help and guidance, using his propaganda talking points, propaganda distribution machine and doing his bidding.

Also, they are not listening to voters at all. They are propagating and instilling fear and hatred in the voters. Because fearful and hateful people can be easily manipulated. So they are manufacturing this voter base, by spreading an unimaginable amount of fake news and propaganda, until the more susceptible layer of society gets brainwashed into their rhetoric.

And once they are brainwashed and terrorized by imaginary monsters and shadow figures (Soros, jews, migrants etc.), they are locked in. They are in a cult. Their mind is fully closed down, their vote locked in to the far-right Putinist. Because at this point all contradictory information and evidence against their world view is just noise to them. They are not listening to any outside info at that point. Their brain is just constantly looping around the terror that they are living in: Soros, deep state, migrants, LGBTQ - all out to get them.

And their only saviour, the night in shining armour? The far-right extremist who promises to save them for all these imaginary monsters and phobias. Le-Pen, Farage, Fico etc.

And if they gain enough power to realize their authoritarian agenda, then your country is gone and flushed down they toilet. I know what I'm talking about, greetings from Hungary.

[-] edel@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

I agree with many of your premises, but not the main one. People are brainwashed for sure that migrants, jews, muslims, etc are the problem, but they do have grievances that the state does not care for them. Blaming Putin on that perception is silly, he wish he was that powerful. US had for decades massively aired propaganda in all corners of the world, financed NGOs, payed journalists and the results were mixed. Putin does not employ not even a 5% of the US budget into those operations. Farage is a good example, he noticed that the British are not happy, that Brussels was getting more powerful and blamed all in Brussels with memes like curved bananas etc (I know trade and knew Brexit was horrible for both side of the Channel) but I don't blame Putin for Farage or Trump... they both are just opportunistic in a situation those countries fail to deliver. UK and US are both in a worse situation due to these two politicians, but banning them both would have been far worse since the discontent still unaddressed. Blaming in Putin for them both is just ridiculous, he wish he had that power!

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

They are trying to build soviet type dictatorships

The Soviet Union wasn’t a dictatorship, and whatever it is they’re trying to build, it’s the furthest thing from socialism or democratic centralism.

[-] The@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/31/marine-le-pen-barred-from-running-for-french-presidency-in-2027

Judges handed Le Pen a five-year ban on running for public office with the added provision that it would take immediate effect. It will apply even if she appeals.

Le Pen, who left the court before the hearing had finished, was also sentenced to four years in prison with two years suspended and and the other two to be served outside jail with an electronic bracelet. She was handed a €100,000 (£84,000) fine. Neither the prison penalty nor fine will be applied until her appeals are exhausted.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Arresting politicians who commit crimes. What a concept

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Man, imagine banning people convicted of crimes of corruption from the government.

Sounds like totalitarian woke leftist beta snowflake bullshit to me

[-] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Wait... you can do that??

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Any French commenters able to contextualize this news for the rest of us? Le Pen's party has been gaining popularity in recent years, if I recall correctly. How is this likely to impact them? Are they organized enough to continue on without her, or is this likely to seriously hurt their electoral chances?

It's always good to see a fascist lose but I'm not tuned in enough to French politics to know the full significance of this.

[-] stormdelay@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

If by recent years, you mean the last 20+ years, sure.

I'm not sure it truly hurts the Front National chances in 2027, however, the expected heir, Jordan Bardella, is not nearly as smart as MLP, so maybe it will make enough of a difference if it ends up a close thing. I would say the political situation in France is pretty volatile, hard to say what it will look like in 2 years.

There is also the possibility (slim, imho, but still real) of MLP either winning her appeal (which should take place sometime in 2026), or at least having the ineligibility sanction removed, which I think would give her a huge boost.

[-] IndianaJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago

Read somewhere that the appeals procedure would need to be sped up for it to finish before the 2027 elections, so they're gonna do that?

[-] stormdelay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

For just the appeal I don't think anyone would need to rush anything to have it done before 2027, if it goes to cassation and beyond it probably would need to be rushed somehow for it to happen before 2027

[-] idefix@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Financing parties is complicated by design as the French system tries to avoid interference from companies or wealthy individuals. RN was struggling because they are greedy incompetent pigs. So they decided collectively to use the money dedicated by the European parliament to recruit parliamentary assistants to finance the party's activities. And they got caught.

This won't affect their chances as racist voters will still vote for racist candidates, whatever the candidate. We will just have a new racist guy (Jordan Bardella) instead of Le Pen.

[-] Mithgaladh@jlai.lu 3 points 4 months ago

It's not so recent. Her father was in the second turn of the presidential election in 2002. Still the RN (rassemblement National) far right party is bigger than ever with 123 elected member in the National assembly (out of 575). They don't really have a back up. She took the reigns from her father, she is the name of the party. The second (Bardella) is young and inapt, and he also has some problem with the law (fake work)

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

May her body reach room temperature expediently.

[-] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Just asking for a friend. Did they stop public beheadings in France.....

( Please note, this is just an awful joke. In no way do I advocate the death sentence. in any shape or form.)

[-] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They did - the last one was in 1977 though, which really isn't that long ago!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamida_Djandoubi?wprov=sfla1

EDIT - wait, you said public beheading. That was in 1939 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Weidmann?wprov=sfla1

[-] teagrrl@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Seems like a light punishment that will allow her to run after the 4 year ban runs out. And conservatives love the persecution angle and having victim complexes. Corruption should bar you from a government position forever.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago
[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 4 months ago

Considering we chose to have no consequences for our felon ex-president, this seems like the better route to go...

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