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Russia has demonstrated it doesn't actually desire peace so many times by now that it's a bit pointless to mention it, really.
Hence “once again” in the title
Man, I know people dislike Macron, and I still think his handling of the Le Penn situation last year was a dramatic misplay, but I've always had a huge amount of respect for him. Maybe because I don't live in France (although I was almost accepted into a job there earlier this year!), but he seems like such a role model in terms of political leadership. He's been handling the Trump/Putin situation much better than most other world leaders, in my opinion
I think he demonstrates global leadership in a number of things, but leadership of France on a range of things including privacy is not good.
Ehhh... I don't think you would say that if you were paying close attention with how he handled opposition the couple of last years.
For instance, he used special laws about 20 times to cripple any opositions when his party lost his majority to pass unpopular laws. They tried to make it illegal to film police and they pushed insane surveillance laws during the Olympic games that is most likely to stay. He refused to let the opposition name a prime minister even if the opposition won the legislative elections. He went against the clear will of the people regarding the age of retirement by forcing it with a special law (90% of workers were against it). Hell... he crippled public hospitals by removing beds during the Covid19 pandemic. He is a typical neo-liberal that mostly has the interest of his own social class. People really wanted him gone and he did everything in his power to stay. He's still there because people were scared of the far right. I'm skipping so many things because there are so much mess to report I can't actually remember it all of it on the top of my head.
The people are so pissed about him that there are talks about the 5th republic being a failure and needing to be changed for a 6th republic.
He has a good image on the geopolitical scene, but I would find another role model if I were you. I'm not French, but I can confidently say that he's a lying piece of shit and most people in France hate him.
Genuinely appreciate your and the other commenters' inputs, I really did only focus on his image outside of France. Thank you for all these examples!
I'd like him as a foreign affairs minister, eu ambassador or somewhere in the EU governing body. I think he'll be great there.
As a president for France, he's definitively not and for so many reasons you qan't list them.
He is a very good diplomat... And a disappointing politic.
Man he is only making business. The current goal now is the rearming of Europe as huge and as fast as possible. Russia making peace can slowdown that. I don't say that he is wrong, but he is just a businessman (France is i think in the world top 3 of weapons selling). Also he fucked Frances democracy, and he kept the colonialism attitude of France in other continents.
but I’ve always had a huge amount of respect for him.
You have really weird role models:
https://tuta.com/blog/france-surveillance-nacrotrafic-law
There's loads of issues with Macron, but I don't see how he's responsible for any of the above
The president doesn't legislate, and he doesn't command the police, he's the executive head of state.
In case you have missed it macron is the president of france since 2017
I wasn't claiming that he hasn't been the president of France; I did, in fact, notice.
I said that's not what the president of France does.
It's like getting mad at the King of England for Canadian laws, that's just not his responsibility, even if he is head of state.
It’s like getting mad at the King of England for Canadian laws, that’s just not his responsibility, even if he is head of state.
Yea same thing, blaming the president of france for his government policies is like getting mad at the king of england for canadian laws...
They're both the respective heads of state, and they're both not members of the legislative branches.
So yeah, in this context they are effectively the same.
You're not getting it. Macron does in fact control the legislation.
Sure it's not what the president is supposed to do, there's a prime minister and speaker for that to decide what laws will be voted on in what calendar. Except when Macron forces his pick on both (and straight up ignores when a new national vote says the left wing opposition gets to name the prime minister), forces the voting calendar, forces passing his laws by skipping a vote he knows will fail, etc.
The 5th French Republic has laws like this that give the president some exceptional powers to get over the head of the parliament. And Macron uses those exceptional powers all the time.
So yes, Macron does do all the things you say the president doesn't do. And that's why people are mad at him.
Respect ≠ "role model"
Try again.
Well DUH.
It is really time for Europe to come together and put and end to Russia and liberate the people wgo they can enjoy the prosperity that the rest of Europe offers. Will it be WW3? Yes. With the condition of the Russian military it will not be for long.
The condition of Europe is not really good.
The UK practically sent their entire stockpile of SPGs to Ukraine (they had to beg Sweden to rebuild their fleet) and Poland thrown half of their stockpile of SPGs to Ukraine for example. Russia is producing more artillery shells than the entirety of Europe combined according to even pro-Ukraine sources. Almost every European country has complained about massive shortages of ammunition due to it all being given to Ukraine. France stated they could only fight Russia for a few weeks before running out of ammo.
Europe can’t even produce their own ballistic missiles which have been a game changer in Ukraine as shown by the effectiveness of ATACMS and Iskander-M. And Russia has been massively out producing Europe in terms of air-launched cruise missiles so don’t bring up Storm Shadow (Kh-101 is longer range than Storm Shadow anyways) or other similar weapon systems.
Russia produced more T-90Ms (a very good tank mind you) last year than the amount of tanks the entire German military has. Production was 20-30 per month last year but this has likely since doubled. Losses for T-90Ms have been low as per Oryx with production massively outpacing losses (one to two months of production last year was enough to replace yearly T-90M losses).
Even T-72B3 has a superior fire control system than the forty year old system used on the Leopard 2A6.
Ukraine has a stronger military than France, Germany, Italy, and the UK combined. There is a reason why these countries state a Ukrainian defeat would be the end of Europe.
Most of Russian Armed Forces aren’t even in Ukraine, majority of forces in Ukraine are from irregular volunteer formations recruited from regions across Russia.
Hence why casualties amongst Russian professionals are low:
(tad old numbers from like weeks ago)
Motorized Rifles: 6,457
VDV: 3,257
Naval Infantry: 1,305
Tank Crew: 1,806
Artillery: 851
Special Forces: 736
Engineering: 291
Navy: 291
VVS: 265
Other: 957
Total: 16,216
Source: MediaZona
For comparison:
US losses from 2003-2005 mainly against insurgents: 5175
Source: Defense Casualty Analysis System
Now that they own USA ? They go for maximum profit.
neither do france.
ask africans what they think.
did i mention anything about russia? again. ask an african what they think.
specifically the ones speaking french... and using french currency for some reason?
What is the post talking about Russia or France?
This is pointless if you feel so entitled defending an imperialistic nation just for the sake of being against the West then please keep that crap on your instance.
its literally about what the french president thinks.
who is here defending an imperialistic nation, again?
You. You're trying to change the subject from russia to France in order to defend an imperialistic country. Which is what you often do. You're in like every other thread that's criticizing russia or china
please point me to where i defended russia in this thread?
I'm glad you asked!
Defending China saying that allegations of Genocide are just lies
Defending Russia's ludacris negotiation demands
Stalin wasn't that bad of a guy
Standard ableism about Soviet Russia
I could keep going all day. You don't strike me as a bad type but I cannot allow utter rubbish to be thrown around like that.
The world is not as simple as US/West bad Russia/China good or vice versa. There is a significant amount of nuance that you need to find here.
Its .ml Chinese bot
the thing you don't seem to realize (or want to, since i just noticed you are french) is that france is doing maybe centuries of imperialism, death and oppression so far. way worse than anything russia ever did. so you just pulled threads from months ago, to null the criticism i made in this one, and hopefully 'out' me for being either naive or a tankie? talk about whataboutism.
what i mean, IS north korea bombing the rest of the planet like the US is? i'm not even talking about soviet russia in the last thread you linked...? i'm sorry but it does seem to me like you just went through my post history looking for anything that might diverge from western narrative.
i hate being put in the position to defend modern-day russia because contrary to peoples opinions of mine, they suck. but when the french oligarchy's mouthpiece is trying to pin them as monsters i can't help but think its very hypocritical at best.
its not about good and bad. the damage is not even comparable.
Well, in this thread, as it's been already pointed out, you've engaged in whataboutism to change the subject from russia to France. It's only a small step above a kid's "NO YOU!" level of argumentation.
Is France's imperialistic history deplorable? Yes. But by the end of the year they will have pulled out from all but 2 countries with which they had defense agreements, as opposed to russia which is increasing presence in the same countries, in addition to the countries in which it already had a presence. So it's actually russia that has potentially more troops in Africa, but I can't find actual numbers to confirm since it's in russia's best interest not to declare those.
So yeah, how can you compare a country that leaves when it's uninvited to russia which is actively shelling a sovereign nation on top of doing the same shit in Africa as all the other imperialists?
i didnt change subjects, i pointed out the hypocrisy. i have been firm on this goalpost the entire thread.
france is STILL imposing the CFAF on what, maybe a dozen african countries right now? this is blatant 19-century style colonialism still. how do you think the french power their squeaky-clean, super-progressive nuclear reactors when their last uranium mine was closed in the early 2000s? where did they get the raw materials to be an industrial superpower?
imperialism goes so much deeper than just the preparations for ww3. if you think russians are worse, i should go back a few comments in this thread and urge you to ask french-speaking africans about it yet again. ask them why some had literal revolutions recently and why western media is saying NOTHING about it.
i'm actually enjoying the conversation but ill have to leave for now, so have a nice day.
What the French president thinks about... Go ahead honey, you can do it. Finish the sentence.
Afrikans. You don't even want to name exact countries where russia and France clash politically and economically.
Because it would open up discussion of russia being as imperialistic NOW as France was half a decade ago.
And oh, they are arming the opposition. What USA has been doing in countries they want resources denied or exploited.
You know. Imperialistic shit.
Fucking Afrikans. Mr socialist.
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