Man the construction worker in me just sees a muscle shirt outline, a tin of chew, a key ring, set of steel toes and a daughter’s bracelet. But I guess any image can be intentionally made misleading eh?
Well I don't think OP means "tackle this pig on sight" moreso "be wary of this potential pig"
So anyone that looks like a generic construction worker? That’s the issue when people make “infographics” like this and spread them.
Are undershirts usually lumpy? Undershirts are lightweight enough to not really affect the overshirt. They're also smooth other than wrinkles—there is clearly some padding being offered by whatever is under that shirt.
What "issue"? Again, it's just saying keep an eye on them, especially at a protest. They could be a cop. So be careful...
You are describing the loop of plastic audio wire poking out of his shirt as a keyring there. You can look up higher res copies of this image. Duckduckgo had two different, higher-resolutiot copies right at the top of the page of this guy. It's supposed to be hard to spot them, otherwise they wouldn't exactly be doing a good job, yeah? Also, this picture specifically is being shown because the guy was confirmed to be an undercover cop. It was during the George Floyd protests.
If you zoom in (the potato quality image) there is absolutely the outline of a vest under the shirt. The printing on the back pocket is not round like a tin of chew. The rest I couldn’t say for sure, boots, bracelet, etc. but the vest and cuffs look dead on.
I have no real experience with this IRL (so probably means I'm in the target audience) but I understood the graphic to just be a starting point.
Couldn't it just be resolved with a simple follow-up conversation? e.g.
"Hey you're not a cop, are you?"
"No way man"
"Ok, lift up your shirt for a sec."
If he won't, he's probably wearing a vest and/or wire.
Or alternative scenario: "Hey you're welcome to join, but you gotta ditch the handcuffs."
"What, you mean this tin of sour candy?"
Dawg asking someone in public to lift their shirt sounds exactly like something a cop would ask. Sketch, or something you saw in a show.
At my school, there was this guy in my general circle. Played in a punk band, different one than mine, hanging out at the same parties, didn't talk much, but easy to get along with. Also, looked like a punk and partied like a punk. Really good with his instrument, also did jazz on a high level.
Many years later, someone sent me a link from a left leaning forum: He was caught as a deep undercover cop. Apparently went to the police academy (~ 3 years in Germany) and got planted shortly after. He "lived" 100 km from his home with roommates who politically active, again in a punk band, participating in apparently as many political groups as he could schedule. Almost all of them were entirely legal, such as advocating for better welfare laws. He sat there, listened, didn't talk much. No contact to actual terrorist cells or anything like that. Minor vandalism and unregistered protests perhaps.
They only caught him after a few years when someone from our home town recognised him at a punk concert and called him by his real name in front of other people. He just walked away, and his fake personality disappeared immediately. From what I can find, doing low-profile police work ever since.
It's a bit concerning that they spy on entirely legal groups as well as groups who commit minor offences with such enormous resources. Must have cost like 100k per year; with deep analysis of his reports probably more. Just to get a list of people to "take care of" when we go full Trump here?
Anyway, my point: Surprising that the undercover cop in the picture makes so many mistakes. He was apparently spotless.
I read Undercover recently and it shows just how far they'll go to infiltrate those groups they deem a threat. Not the right wing groups who suggest that murdering MPs might be a good idea, obviously; just those marginally to the left of Goebbels.
Surprising that the undercover cop in the picture makes so many mistakes. He was apparently spotless.
There's big difference between undercover stings and a cop trying to blend into a public mass. The goals are entirely different.
One arrow missing, pointing to the partially covered Nazi tattoo.
Some of those that work forces
I feel like this isnt highlighting the two most obvious things I'd notice first. Undercover cops for some reason think the backwards cap is still cool and makes them blend in. And they always seem to pick the Yankees or Red Sox to blend in as well. So those would be my giveaways personally 🤷
"You can tell he isn't an undercover cop, nobody wears a Cleveland guardians hat as a disguise"
Agent provacateur?
This infographic first turned up during the BLM protests, but one should generally be wary of undercover agents.
During Occupy, playing "Spot the Fed" was a great workout for skills I developed at DefCon. Literally every protest movement in this country is riddled with undercover agents, secret police informants, planted agitators, and spooks. Learning to ID them is a vital survival skill for activists.
Agent porkateur.
You forgot the most obvious indication he's a cop... Yankee's baseball cap
A clear sign are also people in red baseball hats licking the cop boots.
Start handing out blue bracelets.
Or ask him into his face if his colleagues will beat him up, too, if he loses his bracelet.
At a protest many years ago in Germany, two undercover cops were beaten up pretty badly by other cops. They had a "safeword", but apparently the other cops were already in a frenzy and didn't stop.
In the UK they like North Face coats a lot of the time. They don't really use plain clothes for protest as much anymore. A new strategy that is similar but annoying is the use of "auditors". One of the big ones became an informant so they all copied him in becoming unaware unofficial evidence gatherers, even though the whole concept of auditing is supposedly highlighting police corruption.
One of the big ones
A large cop?
they all copied him in becoming unaware unofficial evidence gatherers
They who?
There have been agitators pretending to be supporters of this anti fascist protests, Andy ngo being a well known trying to pretend as one of them
What is a 'thin blue line bracelet' and why does it give away an undercover cop?
Thin blue line is cop supporter shit. Back the blue, etc...
Lol, shouldn't you take that off if you go out pretending you're with the protesters and all?
Oh def but this picture is too bad to even tell if that's why it is but I wouldn't put it past a cop to be that dumb
Could also be used as an identifier for other officers in case they get into an altercation and need to signal “hey I’m on your side”.
I am not sure if they were being coy, but I saw another user say “color of the day” meaning that it might not just be blue, and that they could be cycling colors to obfuscate detection from protest groups on multi day protests.
Cuffs could be snus tho. If you only spot one of these, prob not a cop but if its multiple signs then its prob a cop
When can rebel groups create an AI that analyzes behaviors to determine if someone is a cop or not? Governments use AI to analyze protesters by the way they walk, we should use AI against the oppressors.
Right now.
The hardest part is the dataset (aka labeled pictures of undercover cops). Give me some of those (A thousand? The more the better,) and I could train a small model for free, in a few days. Or a bigger more reliable one for a few bucks. I can explain specifics if you want.
AI is not some mystery box like Altman would lead you to believe, it’s hackable and totally usable by regular people.
Good advice in turkey too
We are still in this together, but "this" is going to be real different in the very near future. This demands a different kind of "we."
The French Resistance during Nazi occupation played important roles delivering downed Allied airmen back to safety, supplying military intelligence, and acts of sabotage.
The Underground Railroad is estimated to have brought 100,000 freedom seekers to safety between 1810 and 1850.
It's time.
