Ok that's enough social media for today. Sigh
We still have three years to go before the next election, assuming one actually happens.
At this stage in the game, the only thing that these types of polls are going to reveal is who has the most name recognition.
In other words, everyone calm down.
Thank you! Any time this kind of polling shows up on Lemmy, users seem to think this is the Plan of the Democratic Leadership Cabal, rather than an incredibly premature name recognition test.
People want to vote for people they have favorable impressions of who they also think others will vote for. Without other frontrunners, who emerge over time, it's not surprising that polled Democrats would recognize and still support the candidate that 75 million people voted for five months ago.
If you want other candidates (I do), identify them and figure out how to help them build their profile now.
Are you fucking kidding me.
AOC and Bernie over here amassing entire legions of working class people and they're over here bashing themselves in the nuts. doing a straw poll with corporate doners pretending like it means fucking ANYTHING.
GODAMNIT THESE FUCKING DEMOCRATS ARE FUCKING MORONS.
fucking morons.
people demanding progressives, but no, lets pretend conservative democrats have a fucking chance.
how tone-deaf can you fucking be.
Considering the Democratic Party has done this 3 times in a row and that they refuse to primary wildly unpopular members of their own party.
They are extremely tone deaf and out of touch with what the voters want. It’s why I want the progressives in the party to split off. The progressives are screwed if they stay, so why not leave and have an actual fucking chance?
Bernie Sanders got screwed over by the super delegates who all went for unpopular Hillary Clinton. Imagine how wildly different things would be if he was the Democratic nominee in 2016?
agreed. we have assholes like obama and bill clinton also to blame for sinking bernie in 2016.
they are 100% part of why trump is president right now.
Considering the Democratic Party has done this 3 times in a row and that they refuse to primary wildly unpopular members of their own party.
The primaries are open to anybody who meets the requirements. We don't have to wait for "the party" to provide us with better candidates. The better candidates just have to follow the process to declare themselves a candidate. And then we just have to show up and vote for them.
Bernie Sanders got screwed over by the super delegates who all went for unpopular Hillary Clinton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate#2016_election
Sanders initially said that the candidate with the majority of pledged delegates should be the nominee; in May 2016, after falling behind in the elected delegate count, he shifted, pushed for a contested convention and arguing that, "The responsibility that superdelegates have is to decide what is best for this country and what is best for the Democratic Party."[46][54] Ultimately, Clinton won the nomination without relying on the votes of superdelegates; she led Sanders by a substantial number of elected delegates (from primary and caucus votes), as well by a substantial margin in the popular vote.
Also at the top of that page:
In 2018, the Democratic National Committee reduced the influence of superdelegates by barring them from voting on the first ballot at the Democratic National Convention, allowing them to vote only in a contested convention.
Imagine how wildly different things would be if he was the Democratic nominee in 2016?
It's sad to think about how much better things could have been, and also if we had had Gore in 2000. But we shouldn't forget that Clinton won the primaries popular vote by enough that the superdelegates' votes didn't matter.
I still feel like Harris had to gave been handicapped on progressive policies from the DNC. There's simply no way, with her record and history, that she wouldn't have campaigned on a completely separate platform than Biden unless he, and the DNC forbid it. Now, that brings about a new set of issues; in which she was unable to stand up to the establishment and say, fuck you guys. She used to be pretty progressive in the senate and it all went away with the VP.
Good god please no. Not again.
Dems right now.
I like Harris just fine and she would have been a far better president than Donnie, but this is how JD Vance becomes President.
Cant we find someone who is not in favor of war crimes to run from the left? How about Buttigieg
I'd be all in on that.
Jfc. They'll never learn. We really are all doomed.
Just kidding. We were doomed already.
So, they prove once again that they don't learn.
No we fucking didn't. She can't win a primary against sanders.
Bernie Sanders is 83. He won't be running in the Presidential primaries.
Honestly I don't think she should run in 28. Nothing against Kamala, but we really don't need a moderate centrist insider to bring us back from the damage Trump is doing. The nation would be far better off having a real debate with Pete, Tim, and Alexandria up on stage. Kamala would have too much power over the process, and would use every bit of it. Which of course means that's exactly what's going to happen, probably handing us a narrow loss to fucking Don Jr. or some other moron puppet.
Mmore proof the neo liberal democratic party is a controlled opposition party who bows to the will of the same Wall Street military and prison industry profiteers that guide the policies of the right. Trump is going to be handed another 4 years after they repeal the 22nd amendment. this country is a fascist hellscape
Why? Jfc just learn for once.
DNC: "No."
It's funny how libs think republicans are the only stupid "party".
You got that backward. Republicans have stupid constituents, and the democrats have a stupid party. Republicans have been playing the long game and reaping the rewards of decades worth of planning and posturing. Democrats can't agree on a vision. The democrats strength is also their biggest problem. They're a big tent party that's inclusive to all and all ideas. In practice, that means they lack a single vision to fight for and never long-term plan. If they quit focusing on the fringe and instead focused on the class war, they could have that singular, uniting vision.
Never get tired of losing
A.) this is a joke right? B.) amusing they think there’s gonna be a viable election in 2028
Here's an idea, maybe field a compelling candidate who can beat Trump?
Crazy I know. I just don't know where it comes from sometimes.
If Trump is allowed to run again so is Obama. Not sure how everyone feels about that.
What the actual fuck. They never learn.
Can't wait until she loses again to the same dipshit moron she lost to and we're blamed again for her horrid policy campaign, again.
What the fuckkkkk
I swear to god if they pull this nonsense again…
Please don’t.
Things the DNC has learned:
Was this a poll of the DNC or registered Democrats? Asking because ad blocker.
This is why repubs don't have to cheat to win. Democrats will it into existence.
no just no no no please god no
She needs to fuck off. Permanently.
I'm sure leftists and 3rd party voters will be blamed again when she loses, again.
Surely they must mean "Favorite candidate to run away from"....
(I'm kidding, though. I liked Harris as a candidate, but not having a real primary did the Democrats no favors. I blame Biden for not dealing realistically with his aging more than Harris.)
Goddammitsomuch
The Democratic Party’s sole strategy looks like maximizing their big donor and independent votes. So they keep moving toward center-right.
This Democratic Party is like the monsters in Scooby Doo - the villain wearing the mask of the common person so they can get closer to you before stabbing in the back.
To be honest, if there's still an election in 2028 and Kamala Harris is the democrat candidate, I just won't vote anymore. I've voted regularly since I turned 18, but I can't vote Republican in good conscience and Democrats have abandoned the public. I don't even dislike Kamala Harris, she just has no chance of winning and the DNC seems incapable of learning from their mistakes.
Fuck off loser
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