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[-] Godort@lemm.ee 373 points 1 week ago

As relevant now as it was 10 years ago

[-] AugustWest@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh so this is not a photoediting class I thought. So I launched Krita. And everyone laughed when they realized Photoshop was the wrong tool for the job.

We had icecream.

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[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 109 points 1 week ago

Non-destructive editing was way, way more important. Shapes can be done differently anyway.

[-] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 83 points 1 week ago

Typical "we know this feature is asked many times, but it not on our priority/ it is not planned"

I’m not criticizing open source itself, but I think this highlights a common issue in open source software, one that distinguishes widely adopted projects like Blender from others. Successful open source software tends to reach users beyond just those within the open source movement.

I know some might disagree, saying that these developers work for free, but that’s not the point here. Software is created for users, and if a developer declines to implement a feature requested by the user base, many will simply return to proprietary alternatives—like Adobe Photoshop or Photo Pea, in this case. This leaves these open source projects feeling like “second-class citizens” because they lack the specific features users need.

[-] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago

Agree. Similar example is Matrix Element multi-account request. It's the most requested but we still don't know it's roadmap.

[-] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago

That one is infuriating. Having a good client is so key to adoption... And Element is still really, really bad. Yes, it has almost all the features, but refusing multi-account is so so so annoying, and being Electron garbage is horrible. They have so much funding it's ridiculous.

XMPP is another case where adoption has mostly failed exactly because there are no "flagship" clients that do it all.

That's why DeltaChat looks so good. The official clients work great everywhere, and they can do it all!

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[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Tbf this is not exclusive to open source software. iOS famously didn't have "copy and paste" until version 3, for instance. The zealots were the ones that insisted that it was unnecessary until Apple rolled it out.

Plex constantly has requests for obvious features that are stated to not be on their roadmap.

Yes it is frustrating, but it isn't exclusive to open source development.

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

blender is good because they changed course and made a more industry standard ui, as requested by its users.

gimp devs wanna do things their own way period. 3.0 is a step in the right direction, coming a decade too late.

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[-] moomoomoo309@programming.dev 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is literally on the road map for GIMP, right up top. (Status: no just means it hasn't been started yet and isn't planned for 3.2, not that it isn't planned) https://developer.gimp.org/core/roadmap/

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[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 73 points 1 week ago

It's so tiring...

Use the circle selection tool, mark an area, fill it with a solid colour/gradient/texture or morph it further or stroke the path to create a hollow circle

So many options that amount to more than just a shape tool.

[-] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 119 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unintuitive.

I heard of photoshop when I was 13 and I installed a pirated version, just started clicking around and I always found what I wanted in a minute.

10 Years later, I switch 100% to Linux, I have to do some light design work, I open gimp - I CLICK AROUND FOR HALF AN HOUR FOR SOMETHING SIMPLE - can't find it to save my life. Give up and google it, it gives me a reply like yours "just go to a completely unrelated menu to conjure a hack out of your ass that barely resembles what you originally intended to do".

Fuck that UX man. I am so glad pirated photoshop works well in wine nowadays and I have a VM with a legit Adobe suite if I ever need to actually whip up my license for some reason (fuck adobe as well btw.)

I pray that one day there is a real competitor that works natively on Linux. I pay, take my hard earned money every month, whatever it takes, just make it intuitive and reach near feature parity with PS.

If anybody is still reading, sorry for venting, the GIMPs always trigger me, have a nice day.

[-] anon5621@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 week ago

Try krita it has such things :D

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[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 week ago

So many options that amount to more than just a shape tool.

If I wanted to learn some arcane bullshit to draw a circle Id just learn C++.

[-] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Sorry best I can do is a programmable turtle that moves around as a pen.

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[-] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Same energy as "so tired of idiots who want right click>new file on gnome, are you too stupid to open the terminal, cd 20 times and use the shittiest text editor ever to create a new file and save it and then open nautilus and navigate to the same directory, or something?"

Comparable to driving from washington to argentina instead of taking a plane (for those who don't know, there are no roads connecting north to south america). This is literally the attitude why there will never be year of the linux.

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[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wouldn't that simply create a bitmap circle, though? The advantage of shapes in Photoshop is that they are vectors.

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[-] missingno@fedia.io 17 points 1 week ago

That's several more steps than it ought to take. Including the step of having to look this up, because you'd never intuitively figure this out on your own.

[-] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 61 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wrong tool for the job anyway.

GIMP and photoshop have always been photo editing tools first and foremost, which means they are meant for working with bitmap graphics, not vector.

Want to work with vector graphics? Use Inkscape.

Would you look at that: Inkscape already has very robust shape tools

Edit: before I rip my hair out: As explained elsewhere in this post, GIMP already has shape creation methods for bitmap. I assumed people were refering to PS's vector shape capabilities because... GIMP already has shape creation methods for bitmap.

Yes, it's part of the default tool set of a lot of programs that are not GIMP; don't like it? Use those programs you listed instead. Or implement it because it's FOSS. Or throw some money at the devs—who are creating something for you for free while you whinge about the things they haven't done for you—so you at least have some right to whinge.

[-] maxprime@lemmy.ml 70 points 1 week ago

Yeah but sometimes you want a circle in a bitmap.

[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

Why does a shape tool have to mean vectors are involved?

Why can't I just draw some bitmaps in different shapes?

[-] lengau@midwest.social 14 points 1 week ago
[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Maybe? The person I was responding to was making a direct comparison that GIMP is bitmap only and insinuated that shapes are only vectors.

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[-] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wrong.

"GIMP is a cross-platform image editor ... Whether you are a graphic designer, photographer, illustrator, or scientist, GIMP provides you with sophisticated tools to get your job done." - gimp.org

Shape tools is a universal basic tool for any software that handle some sort of image creation or addition.

Photo editing, general image editing, painting software, page layout design, vector design, PDF editor, all of them have one.

Photoshop, Microsoft Paint, Clip Studio Paint, Krita, Photopea, Pixelmator, Affinity Photo, ... all of them have shape tools.

Heck, even Microsoft Excel and Word even have one.

EDIT: Shape tool is planned, not yet WIP. Source: GIMP Roadmaps

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[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

This comment has such a "Wanted to do X for a laugh? We had a tool for that, it's called Y" energy, and I think that's hilarious.

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[-] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

GIMP and photoshop have always been photo editing tools first and foremost

I mean, GIMP literally means "General Image Manipulation Program".

Excusing the lack of proper shape drawing tools as "it's a task for vector software" while at the same time having things like the ability to define vector masks is complete nonsense.

[-] gnutrino@programming.dev 45 points 1 week ago

I mean, GIMP literally means "General Image Manipulation Program".

... It stands for GNU Image Manipulation Program and has done for 28 years now.

[-] fitgse@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago

It means GNU Image Manipulation Program.

[-] itslilith 19 points 1 week ago

Where do you get that idea from? Tht G stands for GNU

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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

You're not wrong. But also, people would love shape tools in GIMP. It still feels like a really weird thing to exclude.

[-] b_tr3e@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago

Nonono, you got it all wrong. Photoshop is the one and only graphics tool, just as Word is the tool for anything text. Like layout - and wherever Word fails layouting you use Photoshop for the job. It has even more different fonts and u can use them all in one document!! Every single letter a different color and a different filter. Everything else is just not proffesional. Hahah. lolrotfl. Can your Gump do that? Thought so!

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago

Except Word has a shape tool.

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[-] umbraroze@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

For illustration work, having good support for both vector and bitmap elements is pretty damn convenient. For example, in comics, you draw the comics themselves in bitmap layers, while panels and speech bubbles go in vector layers. Having the ability to edit the speech bubbles easily is pretty neat.

(Optimally inking/outlines would be vectors too, but most people prefer to do that with bitmap tools anyway, or vectorise later.)

Krita actually does these pretty solidly - vector tools are there and they're pretty easy to use. In GIMP 2, the vector path support actually is there and the editable texts are actually pretty great, but it has the air of "power user trick, for those in the know" rather than something people actually discover easily. You also need to update the vector strokes manually. (Haven't tried GIMP 3 yet.) The fact that people still assume you can't do this stuff really says it all.

[-] twocupsofsugar@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

i just want pressure sensitivity that actually works, GIMP used to be my go to for art stuff in the past, its a shame to see that it hasn't really improved much over the past decade. I've switched completely to Krita, better overall software

[-] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago

Photoshop and gimp are both bad painting software since they are not meant for that. They just do it in a pinch. Used to main ps until I bought clip studio and discovered how damn good it is. Then I went to linux and discovered how damn good krita is.

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[-] notanapple@lemm.ee 39 points 1 week ago

Its on the roadmap. AFAIK it requires vector layers before it can be worked on.

[-] julianh@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago

Man there's a lot of really stupid shit in here.

Yes having a simple to use shape tool is nice. And it's on the roadmap so no, it doesn't go against some weird vaguely defined "core value" of gimp.

[-] xye@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago

GIMP needs a glow up. It looks like what it is, but for a program looking for artists and designers to switch - you’re not going to get it by looking like the Temu photoshop.

[-] matmarspace@programming.dev 17 points 1 week ago

Not gonna lie this update is great. We got TEXT OUTILINES! Do you hear that??? Finally text outlines 🥹❤️

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

I use GIMP only for the simple pixel stuff, and I hope they did not make basic operations even more complicated. I always struggle to get some basic things done just because there are myriads of for me useless and arcane settings.

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Also, the stupid name chosen by mid-1990s edgelords trying to be funny is still stupid.

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[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Gimp 3.0.0 is fucking awesome, haters gonna hate.

There is already a killer plugin for Gimp 3.0.0 called "Batcher" that lets you batch edit and convert images (including pdfs) either with a GUI interface or from the command line. There are already plenty of tools that can do this from the command line, or that are commercial paid software... but this is a pretty damn powerful utility to have attached to a fully featured free and open source image editor that you could teach someone who is uncomfortable with scripting how to make a bunch of edits across a large amount of image files with.

https://github.com/kamilburda/batcher

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