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[-] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 61 points 6 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Wrong tool for the job anyway.

GIMP and photoshop have always been photo editing tools first and foremost, which means they are meant for working with bitmap graphics, not vector.

Want to work with vector graphics? Use Inkscape.

Would you look at that: Inkscape already has very robust shape tools

Edit: before I rip my hair out: As explained elsewhere in this post, GIMP already has shape creation methods for bitmap. I assumed people were refering to PS's vector shape capabilities because... GIMP already has shape creation methods for bitmap.

Yes, it's part of the default tool set of a lot of programs that are not GIMP; don't like it? Use those programs you listed instead. Or implement it because it's FOSS. Or throw some money at the devs—who are creating something for you for free while you whinge about the things they haven't done for you—so you at least have some right to whinge.

[-] maxprime@lemmy.ml 70 points 6 days ago

Yeah but sometimes you want a circle in a bitmap.

[-] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 48 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Wrong.

"GIMP is a cross-platform image editor ... Whether you are a graphic designer, photographer, illustrator, or scientist, GIMP provides you with sophisticated tools to get your job done." - gimp.org

Shape tools is a universal basic tool for any software that handle some sort of image creation or addition.

Photo editing, general image editing, painting software, page layout design, vector design, PDF editor, all of them have one.

Photoshop, Microsoft Paint, Clip Studio Paint, Krita, Photopea, Pixelmator, Affinity Photo, ... all of them have shape tools.

Heck, even Microsoft Excel and Word even have one.

EDIT: Shape tool is planned, not yet WIP. Source: GIMP Roadmaps

[-] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

GIMP has shape tools like MS Paint does.

Also, why not use those programs you listed instead, if GIMP isn't getting the job done.

[-] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Using select tools to make shape is not actual Shape tools.

As I stated previously, GIMP developers list Shape Tools in the roadmap.

Also, why not use those programs you listed instead, if GIMP isn't getting the job done.

Hoping our tool to be more capable is just a normal thing. I want GIMP to be the best image editor, I want Krita to be the best painting and animation software, and so on.

[-] Aux@feddit.uk 1 points 5 days ago

That moment when MS Paint is more advanced than GIMP, lol.

[-] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

To be fair, MS Paint (and other Paint-alike) software shape tools is barebone. No NDE and just direct to canvas/layer. (which perfectly fine for its scope)

[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 48 points 6 days ago

Why does a shape tool have to mean vectors are involved?

Why can't I just draw some bitmaps in different shapes?

[-] lengau@midwest.social 14 points 6 days ago
[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Maybe? The person I was responding to was making a direct comparison that GIMP is bitmap only and insinuated that shapes are only vectors.

[-] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Because GIMP already can make bitmap shapes

[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

How? Isn't that what's being discussed here, that too make bitmap shapes there isn't a dedicated tool for it, instead you have to do multi-step workarounds.

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 days ago

This comment has such a "Wanted to do X for a laugh? We had a tool for that, it's called Y" energy, and I think that's hilarious.

[-] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

You can use both, you don't have to limit yourself to only one document/image manipulation program

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

You're not wrong. But also, people would love shape tools in GIMP. It still feels like a really weird thing to exclude.

[-] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

GIMP and photoshop have always been photo editing tools first and foremost

I mean, GIMP literally means "General Image Manipulation Program".

Excusing the lack of proper shape drawing tools as "it's a task for vector software" while at the same time having things like the ability to define vector masks is complete nonsense.

[-] gnutrino@programming.dev 45 points 6 days ago

I mean, GIMP literally means "General Image Manipulation Program".

... It stands for GNU Image Manipulation Program and has done for 28 years now.

[-] fitgse@sh.itjust.works 25 points 6 days ago

It means GNU Image Manipulation Program.

[-] itslilith 19 points 6 days ago

Where do you get that idea from? Tht G stands for GNU

But what does the G in GNU stand for?

[-] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 10 points 6 days ago

GIMP's not Unix

[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

gTerry Pratchett, I think.

[-] Abnorc@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

They could call it SIMP, for specialized image manipulation program.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

drawing shapes is a very much general use. 90% of the times I only open an image editor to crop and annotate an image, with shapes like boxes circles arrows. I'm not drawing in it and I highly doubt that drawing on a computer is a "general" thing.

[-] umbraroze@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

For illustration work, having good support for both vector and bitmap elements is pretty damn convenient. For example, in comics, you draw the comics themselves in bitmap layers, while panels and speech bubbles go in vector layers. Having the ability to edit the speech bubbles easily is pretty neat.

(Optimally inking/outlines would be vectors too, but most people prefer to do that with bitmap tools anyway, or vectorise later.)

Krita actually does these pretty solidly - vector tools are there and they're pretty easy to use. In GIMP 2, the vector path support actually is there and the editable texts are actually pretty great, but it has the air of "power user trick, for those in the know" rather than something people actually discover easily. You also need to update the vector strokes manually. (Haven't tried GIMP 3 yet.) The fact that people still assume you can't do this stuff really says it all.

[-] b_tr3e@feddit.org 11 points 6 days ago

Nonono, you got it all wrong. Photoshop is the one and only graphics tool, just as Word is the tool for anything text. Like layout - and wherever Word fails layouting you use Photoshop for the job. It has even more different fonts and u can use them all in one document!! Every single letter a different color and a different filter. Everything else is just not proffesional. Hahah. lolrotfl. Can your Gump do that? Thought so!

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 31 points 6 days ago

Except Word has a shape tool.

[-] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Murdered in just 6 words

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